Dylan Lauren, Founder/CEO Dylan's Candy Bar, Author of "Unwrap Your Sweet Life"
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[1:22]I'm here today with Dylan Lauren.
[1:24]Dylan is the CEO and founder of Dylan's Candy Bar, the giant candy imporium.
[1:27]The Dylan's Candy Bar Store in New York City alone is 15,000 square feet and three stories
[1:32]and gets 2 million visits a year.
[1:34]Dylan has opened more than 20 locations in airports to freestanding stores.
[1:39]She's launched a lifestyle brand with apparel, cosmetics, home design, strollers, and more.
[1:43]In fact, Dylan's Candy Bar just had a super fun, sweet 16 party to celebrate being
[1:47]business for 16 years.
[1:49]She recently starred in the TV reality competition show The Toy Box, which by the way,
[1:53]my kids were obsessed with and watched every single time.
[1:56]And last but not least, she has written a book, which is why she's here today, called
[1:59]Dylan's Candy Bar Unwrap Your Sweet Life.
[2:01]The graduate of Duke University, Dylan and her husband live in New York City with their
[2:04]three-year-old twins who she calls for Twinkies.
[2:06]So, welcome to Dylan.
[2:07]Thank you.
[2:08]Thanks for having me.
[2:11]So I watched your CBS interview from this Valentine's Day and heard that you wrote your
[2:14]entire book, while on your blackberry, on a step mill at the gym.
[2:17]Is that really true?
[2:19]First of all, I love the blackberry and I hope it stays around forever because it's super
[2:23]easy to tie bond.
[2:25]And yes, I tend to love this, it's the stair mill or the step mill.
[2:29]It's three rotating steps that you feel like you're hiking, but you don't have to be in
[2:34]the wilderness.
[2:35]So I'm on my blackberry and I can sort of focus more somehow on work than I can just
[2:41]sitting at a desk.
[2:43]And I wrote, yes, I wrote my whole book on that and somehow when I'm exercising, whether
[2:48]it's on the stair mill or running, good thoughts come to mind, more so than trying hard
[2:54]to get something out.
[2:56]And that was the best method for me, plus it was a great aerobic exercise because I didn't,
[3:01]you know, I used my arms too, I didn't just hold on, it was good.
[3:05]And how did the idea for the book come about?
[3:07]Well, you know, I have retail stores and I felt like, you know, that's one way of getting
[3:13]people to see this retail, tame and fantasy land that I, you know, always enjoy.
[3:18]But my mission is to merge fashion art and pop culture with candy.
[3:23]And I felt that the book would allow me to show that like showing, you know, art made
[3:27]out of candy gifts, you know, made out of candy, celebrating holidays with table tops
[3:33]that you set with candy, you know, centerpieces of candy, fashion week with dresses made
[3:38]out of candy.
[3:39]And, you know, in the store, I can't always, you know, it's Easter, it's Christmas,
[3:43]it's Halloween, it's, it's, it's ever changing, but you know, we take a photo of that
[3:48]and it's not great and it's not as easy to capture.
[3:51]So I wanted a medium where I could really show a beautiful photo of what was in my head
[3:56]or a beautiful display shot by a professional that was like, you know, coffee table
[4:01]keeper sake.
[4:02]Yeah.
[4:03]The photography is insane.
[4:04]It's amazing.
[4:05]Yeah.
[4:06]It's, it's hard to not be happy looking through this book.
[4:09]Yeah.
[4:10]You know, it's funny.
[4:11]When I was thinking of doing this book, you know, some, some book companies were like,
[4:16]oh, no, it should be more of just like a, you know, a beach read.
[4:20]and I was like, that's so not what this is.
[4:22]This is about how I see candy and how I want the world to like really be enveloped in
[4:27]the colors of candy and it has to be a coffee table book.
[4:30]And, you know, with the book industry and some struggles of the scale of coffee table
[4:34]looks the cost of photography.
[4:37]That was like a sort of bone of contention first, firstly, but after presenting these beautiful
[4:43]photos, which people don't usually see candy, I guess the way, you know, I see it.
[4:47]And they were like, oh, my God, this is an art book.
[4:49]It's not just a read about candy and like living a sweet life of about happiness.
[4:55]It's really about beauty and aesthetics of, of, of confections.
[4:59]Yeah.
[5:00]You say in the book a lot that candy for you is like art.
[5:04]It's a true visual medium that has been running in your family forever.
[5:07]And can you tell me more about that and how you see it more as an art form?
[5:11]Yeah.
[5:12]You know, I'm flipping through the book now.
[5:14]There's a hard cover available to you.
[5:15]I have to.
[5:16]Sure.
[5:17]I give you a handbook.
[5:18]No, you know, I look at these candies and I hand selected, you know, probably 500 candies
[5:25]in this book from every season over, you know, out of like 7,000 candies from around
[5:30]the world that I thought represented the beauty of candy because when you look at the saturated
[5:35]colors, you know, you look at the translucency of a gummy candy or the patterns on a starlight
[5:42]man or unicorn pop or a whirly pop.
[5:45]I mean, they're really beautiful.
[5:48]And for me, it just, it really excites me when I see them.
[5:51]Like, you know, I think, you know, most people when they look at like a red juicy apple
[5:56]or red piece of steak or red gummy candy, you know, it has the color really can move
[6:01]you.
[6:02]And I see that in candies.
[6:03]It's like art.
[6:04]And when, you know, we assemble different candies together, they pop off each other.
[6:09]And to me, that's what the art is.
[6:11]It's the creation and the assembly too.
[6:13]And you had said in the book that one influence had been seeing all the different fabrics
[6:16]growing up.
[6:17]Oh, yeah.
[6:18]And having them.
[6:19]Yeah.
[6:20]So my dad, Ralph Lauren, definitely inspired me, you know, to appreciate color and design.
[6:25]And I, you know, I think it was, I said it's synesthesia where I looked at the fabrics
[6:30]in his jars of, you know, they had these, actually they have really candy jars in fabric.
[6:35]And I wanted to eat them, you know, I thought it was candy.
[6:38]I've looked at beads and I thought they were candy.
[6:40]You know, I see color and I just think it's so beautiful.
[6:44]And, you know, I think just being in a fashion family with a lot of people, like my grandfather
[6:50]was an artist, my cousins and artists, my dad is a designer, my brother's film maker.
[6:55]I mean, everybody's in the arts.
[6:56]So in my mom's photography, it all sort of made me very tuned in to candy and it's
[7:05]beauty.
[7:06]So I didn't realize until I read your book that the original launch of Dylan's candy
[7:10]bar was right after 9-11 in the book.
[7:13]You say you debated, not even opening the store, because as you said, I'm going to quote
[7:17]here.
[7:18]New Yorkers had lost, New Yorkers who had lost someone in the towers came up to me in
[7:20]tears saying thank you for creating such a happy haven.
[7:23]You obviously went ahead and did the lunch.
[7:25]Can you tell me more about the stress of that time, the decision-making?
[7:29]Right.
[7:30]Well, you know, I think actually to, to, I don't know what I, I forgot what I wrote.
[7:35]But I, I, it wasn't that I didn't think I should open the store.
[7:39]It was more that I wasn't sure if all of a sudden, you know, it was September 11th.
[7:44]We were supposed to open literally September, like 13th.
[7:47]And we, and I wasn't sure if that was appropriate, you know, it's like why of all times
[7:52]to open a candy store.
[7:53]It sounds so kind of frivolous, like candy, whatever.
[7:56]So we opened in October, which was a better time.
[8:00]I mean, you could start paying rent and everything.
[8:02]But I, I also knew that, you know, that was a time where people were looking for something
[8:10]an escape.
[8:11]And so it was a very depressing time as you know, like people were getting out of the
[8:14]city.
[8:15]No one was coming to the city, people were just, it was terrible.
[8:18]And then when I think about it, I do think that what I noticed with opening around that
[8:23]time was there was a need for new, exciting, happy things and nostalgic things and things
[8:29]that were like that in New York were the things that people kept people going in.
[8:34]And I felt like our store quickly became a tourist attraction because of that because, you
[8:40]know, it's just, it was, it's a happy escape.
[8:43]And I still get that to this day, people come in from the hospital nearby or I, you know,
[8:48]I, people come from make a wish or, you know, they're just brought in for all different
[8:52]reasons.
[8:53]And they're like, I just want to sit in your store.
[8:54]I want to listen to them.
[8:55]Candy songs.
[8:56]I want to look at them.
[8:57]I'm not even going to eat the candy.
[8:58]But so it's really just about the environment.
[9:01]So I feel good about that.
[9:02]Sorry.
[9:03]You say in your book, you know, to what you were just saying, wouldn't it be wonderful
[9:07]to be a kid forever to just live in the moment every moment to not think about work or
[9:12]worries or cavities or calories or cavities?
[9:15]Yes.
[9:16]You didn't candy can help you do that.
[9:17]If you're depressed, bored, frustrated or frazzled, I swear it is the savior and age and,
[9:21]and to do it to what else you.
[9:23]And then you said, for me, candy provides a magical escape back to my past, back to a simpler
[9:27]time when life was all sweet and stress-free.
[9:29]Totally.
[9:30]Does this always work for you?
[9:33]Do you turn to candy yourself?
[9:35]And times the sort of nostalgia vibe going back.
[9:38]You know, it's funny.
[9:40]I feel like what I wrote there has been true my whole life.
[9:45]You know, I think I've been really into gumballs lately.
[9:48]And one of my first like fouries into candy stores was like going to a gumball machine
[9:55]outside the store and trying to get the red gumball and like my recent like enjoyment
[10:00]gumballs has been like the sort of nostalgic feeling of how excited I was to get the red one how
[10:06]sweet it was like chewing on it like alleviated some stress and it and it does now and I was
[10:11]recently thinking about that same with circus peanuts the marshmallowy ones lately that's been
[10:17]my thing and you know I it's subconscious some of it and some of it is just like you know I
[10:23]just know like I love like the you know it's it is obviously sugar high but it's more than that
[10:29]it's like I am immediately taken back to a time I'm not like a lollipop person but you know if
[10:35]I smell a grape you know lollipop I think of like my first candy at the doctor's office and that
[10:43]kind of was not a great thing but I you know and I'll have a tootsie roll and I think of like my
[10:48]best times at camp when like candy can teen and that was that so it does like it's a weird sort
[10:53]of subconscious thing that kind of in in my adult life gets me through has there been a time
[10:59]that you can remember where you were just too upset that candy didn't help you at all
[11:04]um definitely you know sometimes when you you know someone passes away and you just can't eat you
[11:09]know and you have no no appetite or you know there've been times I've been way too much
[11:16]candy I don't feel good you know so everything moderation um do you think that consumers
[11:22]interest in candy and sort of visiting your store is this hope for regression do they do you
[11:27]think that feeling more like a kid helps people confront life today like do you think that
[11:33]helps? Well I think there's many reasons people like Dylan's candy bar um and it's not just
[11:39]about the candy I mean we do we're selling sort of lifestyle products um so I think it's the
[11:45]enjoyment first and foremost of color you know whether it's the candy patterns on the clothing we
[11:50]sell or the candy jewelry it's the it's the music you know we pay over 200 songs from i1 candy to
[11:58]you know candy shop to um you know so people feel like they're in a good mood um there's candy
[12:04]smells in there that are nostalgic so I think it's the all the senses are awoken and there's not
[12:11]a lot of retail stores that do that they're all slat wall we have literally you're surrounded by
[12:16]giant lollipop trees and candy cane columns so it's like being immersed in an environment that
[12:21]transports you which which I always loved Disneyland for doing but you know there's a lot of
[12:26]candy stores that do nothing for me and I'm not even hungry when I walk in so it's that I do think
[12:32]the the um childhood memories is something that people from around the world can relate to
[12:38]but I also think just as an adult there you know our average customers in their late 30s it's not
[12:44]you know there are people who just still love candy like they have a sweet tooth and then there's
[12:48]the people who love salty things so we have something for them and people who love you know we
[12:51]also serve food in our cafe and we serve candy cocktails and so it's sort of just an ice cream it's
[12:58]like amazing thank you thank you so there's something for everyone and it's just that I think it's
[13:02]about the happy uh you couldn't you know we get the woman you know who can normally wear her
[13:08]for coat to walk in you know in inner jeans and be like I just want some gummy bears like
[13:13]you know brings out that and people so so I know you can ask this all the time how you stay so
[13:19]trim despite your obsession with candy um and I know you're a huge workout at a yes yes yes yes
[13:25]and we did the like water oh yeah yeah yeah absolutely so tell me about if you don't mind your
[13:31]workout routine now or how you feel at offsets um you know you're you know eating and moderation
[13:36]well the irony is that as much as I love candy um you know I have tons of books on nutrition
[13:42]and I also wanted to be a gym instructor you know when I graduated I got my certificate to teach
[13:49]classes because I you know I was very big into sports um and I I love athletics so you know I have
[13:57]a lot of energy and so naturally I do like to work out I it's an outlet for me um as much as it
[14:04]is to burn calories from eating things so I you know my routine is I'd say I try to do um
[14:11]running which I think is really good the stairmeal um spin classes boxing those kind of things
[14:17]maybe three to four times a week and um what I don't like as much but I definitely do is wait
[14:21]training about three times a week so I noticed that wait training as much as it's not really
[14:27]you know that's more for me knowing that in my future I need my muscle tone for you know women
[14:33]and the bones and I know I know it's really important um but I also find that has been really
[14:37]good with like you know getting rid of water retention or um so that would be my workout routine
[14:43]I definitely eat really healthy I don't like you know I don't like complicated food I like
[14:49]very simple very healthy vegetables and salads and protein and I know that when I eat candy it's not
[14:55]like it's I mean I used to literally eat like just candy but I know I have to have the balance especially
[15:02]um protein knowing that the candy is the carbohydrates so that ratio has to be right um and I think
[15:09]your blood sugar can spike if you don't have you know the healthy you know salmon with the good
[15:13]fats and the good protein and the salad and then you know candy moderation but I you know I don't
[15:19]believe in all or nothing it's never worked for me so you know I just I think it's just gotta
[15:25]pick your favorite things and pick your dates when you know whether it's like a handful here or there
[15:30]or on the weekends whatever it is but you'll learn that thing unless it's like you know something
[15:34]really you know if you if you can't if you shouldn't have sugar you shouldn't have nuts like that's
[15:38]a different story but you know um so how I do I know it sounds like one of these cliche questions
[15:45]how do you balance it all but really like do you have anything that particularly helps you get
[15:51]through you know the fact that you're managing this growing empire basically of retail
[15:58]your twins your workouts how you know right you know I think that's the the question I have like
[16:06]you know and I think your podcast actually something I'm excited to listen to more because I
[16:10]it's really just learning from other people who are do who are not just not working like you know
[16:16]I think it's women who work who have a passion for something who also you know trying to balance it
[16:23]you know we have kids I have my dog okay my husband I have my own family who I'm close with a
[16:28]lot of responsibilities and you know I think um it's really hard I don't know I think it's a
[16:33]challenge that um if you care a lot then you can't really um I'm am looking at a journal you
[16:41]have it says hold on let me overthink this hilarious as a story of my life you know and it's
[16:47]great to have a a partner in my husband who's a little more like don't overthink things you
[16:52]know go with your emotion and then you know schedule it just and luckily being an entrepreneur I
[16:58]can schedule my time so that I make sure I get my really quality time in with him my husband
[17:04]my my dog who's my other child my kids my my own family so that's that's something I like but
[17:11]yeah it's really hard and I think um you know I really love what I do so it's not like I'm just
[17:17]doing this because it's just my hobby like I've always collected candy on my travels um you know
[17:23]I go into my stores and there's tons of stress that comes with it and it's you know that's with
[17:28]every job and but it's my core passion is the designing and being in the stores mean the managing
[17:34]people is is definitely hard um but working out for me is a great outlet um you know traveling
[17:41]being in nature which is something I think really key I'm starting to learn more about where I
[17:48]should be you know like I don't spend enough time in nature being in New York and running from you
[17:54]know one store to another store um and also I did take up um transcendental meditation which is
[18:00]which is helped um but you know it's it's like I think it's really just quality time and trying
[18:06]to focus where you're focusing and not and just knowing like you're not it's like 80-20 rule
[18:11]the overthinking book that I got I am like I feel like particularly with logistics I don't know
[18:16]but if that's one of your big issues for me the management of like I'm gonna go to this birthday
[18:20]money and then who's gonna take this who can pick up this kid if I'm gonna go to this
[18:25]well you are very inspiring to me I have always looked at you as been no I seriously I mean I
[18:30]only have two kids you know there's no only there is no only well it's it's hard but you
[18:36]you're very organized you know I think um what I'm learning to be more tech savvy with spreadsheets
[18:43]and there's some apps with calendars I mean I don't really use them but spreadsheets help me a lot
[18:48]with more with work and some of my own personal stuff like um but yeah I think everyone has
[18:55]a system but it's kind of like what I'm even doing this weekend is stepping back because I
[19:00]now have to make it to now go into real like whatever it's called the next school not the
[19:04]big group not the big group anymore and you know I'm it's like the new year for me even though
[19:08]we're all out of school I want to think of the summer and and the new school year is a new year
[19:13]for me so really sitting back and like what what works for me like you know should my weekends
[19:19]be when I'm in nature or should they be when I'm in the city or should I be when I'm taking my
[19:23]kids to a class or should you know like what is it that makes me happy and when and when do I
[19:28]have the energy for that and when are I pushing myself like really thinking about it you know versus
[19:33]just going in every week like like you with a chicken with a head caught off which is like what happens
[19:39]you just described that was me like the picture you someone sent me like one of those
[19:44]memes of of Kermit the Frog and with their head spinning I think everybody no matter what they
[19:52]if they work or don't work they have a phase that work gets really hectic yeah I mean I can't believe
[19:58]I made it through
[20:00]phases like moving apartments, like that was one.
[20:04]See that?
[20:04]You know, like every phase, you're like,
[20:06]how did it get through it?
[20:07]So I don't know, massage helps too.
[20:10]I like that, you know, the key point that I just took
[20:13]away from that is you're saying like,
[20:14]just be more deliberate about it.
[20:16]Like think it through, like analyze it,
[20:19]and then do it because it's so easy
[20:21]just to like, flow into another weekend.
[20:23]No, no.
[20:24]Should we go see Peppa Pig or not?
[20:25]Right.
[20:26]Which is like, what is gonna actually make all of us happy?
[20:28]Yes.
[20:29]And it's funny, like for me, like I, you know,
[20:32]some things that don't make me happy are like getting,
[20:35]like I'm waking up way too early just to get a workout class.
[20:38]And I'm like, do I really have to work out first thing
[20:40]in the morning?
[20:41]Like, I want to work out.
[20:42]I know it's good for me.
[20:43]But like, can I do it later in the day?
[20:44]And how does that affect it versus going through every week
[20:47]in the book, you know?
[20:50]That's awesome.
[20:51]Will you tell me a little more?
[20:52]I know you have all these passions with your non-profits
[20:55]to get animals and your love of funny.
[20:57]Yes.
[20:58]Do you remember?
[20:59]So can you tell me a little more about that?
[21:02]Sure.
[21:03]So when I was younger, I had two pet bunnies,
[21:05]chocolate and vanilla, who you know that.
[21:07]And I also currently still have a collection
[21:09]of over 3,000 rabbit stuffed animals.
[21:12]I have a passion for rabbits and always animals.
[21:16]I now, you know, have a dog who's six years old,
[21:19]who's a rescue from Puerto Rico,
[21:22]through a shelter MCS PCA named Jersey.
[21:26]And, you know, in the process of adopting Jersey
[21:30]and through my love of animals
[21:31]and through just understanding that having something bigger
[21:36]than just your you or your business,
[21:38]I wanted to start a foundation that I personally was passionate
[21:41]about.
[21:42]My parents are very philanthropic
[21:44]and, you know, they have causes,
[21:45]but they also love animals.
[21:47]And so for me, I started Dylan's candy barn,
[21:51]you know, which is my company's foundation and my foundation.
[21:55]Really with the focus to change the stigma of, you know,
[21:59]adopting a pet versus going to a pet store reader
[22:03]because I mean, I've done a lot of research on it.
[22:05]The animals that are adopted are really of the same caliber.
[22:09]If anything, I do believe people who have adopted
[22:12]do see that the dog is very grateful.
[22:15]There's like something very special about it.
[22:18]So it's to get these dogs out of shelters and into homes
[22:22]and also to get rid of the abuse of animals.
[22:26]And the, you know, there's a lot of countries
[22:28]that do not believe that, you know, dogs are pets,
[22:31]they shoot them.
[22:32]And Jersey came from a country that actually was abusive
[22:36]to animals.
[22:38]They don't spray or neuters.
[22:39]So there's an overpopulation
[22:40]and then Lily kids are throwing rocks at them.
[22:42]They think they're.
[22:43]So Dylan's candy barn is something I'm strongly passionate about.
[22:48]So we have a partner with, you know,
[22:51]Humane Society, ASPCA, best friends.
[22:53]And so throughout our stores,
[22:56]we are doing adoption events where we'll have about 25 dogs
[23:00]or cats or rabbits lined up, you know,
[23:03]with the shelter where, so people can actually play
[23:05]with the animals, they don't have to go to a shelter
[23:07]where some people don't feel comfortable doing.
[23:09]And they can adopt on the spot.
[23:12]And we're doing something, you know, in Chicago with pause
[23:15]where that was our, we had like 40 dogs adopted.
[23:18]Literally that day, you can take them home.
[23:20]And these shelters are just amazing.
[23:23]And it's just a great feeling.
[23:26]So I feel strongly about it.
[23:28]So it's so great.
[23:28]I'm so glad you're doing that.
[23:30]So why is coming next for you?
[23:32]I know you're expanding the candy bar.
[23:35]You're going into all these different areas
[23:37]and merchandise.
[23:38]Yeah.
[23:39]What's next?
[23:39]So we just launched two things.
[23:42]We launched a baby collection with Aiden and an A,
[23:46]which is like Muslims with candy patterns,
[23:48]which literally is coming out now.
[23:50]And we just launched, it's actually coming out
[23:52]soon William Sonoma dinner where party,
[23:55]you would like to actually take stands.
[23:58]So those two partnerships,
[24:00]we have coming out of partnership with Greece
[24:03]for their, I guess 40th anniversary.
[24:04]I'm trending.
[24:05]And so it's always like pop culture
[24:07]or a bean girls line.
[24:08]Yes, mean girls, we had actually out of fears ago,
[24:11]we relaunched it because of the play.
[24:14]So you could buy a Cal team bar on Wednesdays,
[24:17]we were pink clothing.
[24:19]So there's those items and partnerships.
[24:23]And then there is in our chocolate,
[24:25]we are launching a very high end collection
[24:28]called Gold Collection for really,
[24:30]in a chocolate real connoisseurs.
[24:32]And for people who are health conscious,
[24:34]we have a very healthy treat yourself collection,
[24:38]which is somewhat vegan, not free allergen-free candies,
[24:41]which we sell to Whole Foods.
[24:43]And it's been extremely successful.
[24:45]So we're doing that.
[24:47]In terms of stores, we are reopening East Hampton
[24:50]for the summer, which has great ice cream
[24:53]and is great candy.
[24:55]And we're opening, hopefully Hawaii, do bye.
[25:01]And I'm looking at London.
[25:04]Those are like the focuses.
[25:05]And then there's always the, you know,
[25:07]on the lookout for flagships in major cities,
[25:09]where like San Francisco,
[25:10]we still don't have a store, you know, smaller cities
[25:14]like Boston, we're not,
[25:16]we don't want to be all over the country.
[25:18]We want to be in select cosmopolitan areas
[25:21]with a lot of foot traffic.
[25:23]And then I'm also just doing, you know,
[25:26]just other projects, like I, you know,
[25:28]I would like to come out with a different book,
[25:30]which we got that.
[25:32]And, you know, it's been approached
[25:34]to do several big picture projects
[25:37]that are sort of in the works.
[25:38]But it keeps me busy,
[25:40]and I can't remember what else we're doing.
[25:43]Those are big.
[25:44]I mean, I think that's,
[25:45]that's, I, how you keep it all straight.
[25:48]That's really impressive.
[25:48]It's impressive.
[25:50]Thank you.
[25:50]But you know, it's funny, like,
[25:51]honestly, like, like you probably with writing
[25:53]in the podcast, like it's sort of to me,
[25:55]the outlet from my real life.
[25:57]Like if I'm designing a store and literally taking
[26:00]and saying, should I put candy cane columns
[26:02]on this fixture or lollipop columns
[26:04]or jelly beans?
[26:05]Like it's so fun.
[26:06]It's like my former art.
[26:08]So I don't think it's worked sometimes, which is good.
[26:12]I was talking to my mom yesterday
[26:14]and I was sort of upset that, you know,
[26:16]this week it's just been particularly difficult.
[26:17]And she's like, well, do you think this is the wrong time
[26:20]to maybe be doing a podcast
[26:21]and trying to write a book and all this stuff?
[26:22]Yeah.
[26:23]And I wanted to say like, that is what's getting me
[26:25]through this time.
[26:25]That's not making this time hard.
[26:27]Like it's hard having four kids
[26:29]and all these issues that come with it.
[26:30]But, you know, writing for me and candy and color
[26:33]and all this for you.
[26:33]Like if you have an outlet or exercise or whatever.
[26:37]I think, you know, being too in it,
[26:39]you just need some sort of escape.
[26:42]And I can't, you know, honestly this weather.
[26:44]I mean, I literally can only count three days
[26:46]that it was good this spring.
[26:48]I know, I'm like, I can't even face it.
[26:49]I can't.
[26:50]I don't think anyone's been in a good mood.
[26:52]So you're not alone.
[26:52]And I am, you know, I'm the other thing.
[26:55]I, you know, I do love astrology and, you know,
[26:57]that kind of outer world thinking.
[26:59]And I do believe like there's an energy.
[27:01]It's not just about politics or your personal thing.
[27:05]I think there's so many people are saying the same thing
[27:07]about certain times a year that you're not alone
[27:10]and you should feel better.
[27:11]Thank you.
[27:13]So, well, Dylan, thank you so much for taking time.
[27:15]I know you're so busy.
[27:16]So, thank you.
[27:17]No, thank you.
[27:18]So, thank you.
[27:19]I'm gonna chance to talk to you on this format.
[27:20]Yeah, that was fun.
[27:21]Okay, okay, thanks so much.
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