George Brescia, CHANGE YOUR CLOTHES, CHANGE YOUR LIFE
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[1:43]George Presia is the author of Change Your Close, Change Your Life. He is a style expert and has
[1:50]appeared on NBC's Today Show. His other television includes regular red carpet commentary and
[1:56]fashion and trend reporting for CBS, ABC, NBC, and Fox. As Playbill.com's best-dressed
[2:02]columnist, he covered the Tony Awards in several seasons of Broadway openings and Gallas.
[2:07]His award-winning web series, Dress Up, featured George working with Broadway's top stars,
[2:12]preparing them for their opening nights and premieres. He travels the country doing guest
[2:16]lecturing special events and regional television shows about current fashion trends and
[2:20]personal styling and has also been featured on NPR's Marketplace. George is currently the brand
[2:25]ambassador for logo by Laurie Goldstein on the QVC Network. His background includes 25 years
[2:30]working closely with top fashion leaders, Ralph Lauren, Donna Karen, Tell Me Hillfinger,
[2:35]and with fashion directors at Bloomingdale's, Burgdorf's, and Lord and Taylor. He's also a top tier
[2:39]New York City based stylist and image consultant with tons of clients. Listen to all of his advice
[2:45]here. As he says, your clothing has the potential to enhance your personal brilliance.
[2:50]Welcome, George. Thanks so much for coming on moms. Don't have time to read books.
[2:54]Oh my god, thank you for having me. I'm so excited. I was really nervous to be honest. I know this
[2:57]is an audio recording, but you and I are over Skype right now and I was like, I wonder what I should
[3:03]wear to this Skype interview because you are like the master. So anyway, I just put on a cover-up.
[3:08]So I'm sorry. No, you look great. You look great. Listen, you know what? It's not even about that.
[3:13]It's never about like feeling bad. That's the last thing we want. We want you feeling good.
[3:18]And so that's what my book is all about. It's all about you feeling good and feeling confident
[3:22]and just having the clothes in your closet that do that for you so that you don't really have
[3:26]to think about it, but you look terrific. Yeah, well thank you. So give listeners the broader
[3:32]picture of your book, which by the way has probably the best cover I've seen in my entire life.
[3:36]I want to like frame your cover and put it on my wall. I'm obsessed with color and it is so awesome.
[3:40]Well, it's so thank you. I appreciate that. You know, the book has a very colorful cover and that
[3:45]is no mistake because I'm all about color and what colors people wear and to have them in colors
[3:52]that make them look really good. You know, listen, this is the deal. You have to get dressed every day.
[3:58]And no matter what your life is, no matter what's going on in the world, we cover our body with
[4:03]clothes, no matter what. And so my goal is to have you put clothes on your body that A,
[4:10]make you feel amazing. B, give you the response that you want from people in terms of the way
[4:16]that you want to be seen. You know, it's not so much about a compliment. It's more about how do you
[4:20]want the world to see you because they do see you, whether you like it or not, no matter what,
[4:27]whether it's on a Skype call, a Zoom call in person, no matter what's happening in the world and
[4:33]what your life is, you are seen at some point. So you want to make sure that you're being thought
[4:39]of in the way that you want to and clothes do that. So I really got that from dressing celebrities.
[4:48]You know, I'm a stylist and I have a whole background. I was at Ralph Lauren for 10 plus years.
[4:53]I was a vice president Tommy Hilfiger. I've worked at Donna Karen. I've worked with Jay Z at
[4:58]Rock Aware in Beyonce and I dressed all kinds of Broadway actresses to all kinds of, you know,
[5:04]Oscar winning actresses in Los Angeles movie actresses. And what I realized was dressing them for
[5:10]auditions because they would say to me, I'm going in for this role. And what do you think I should wear?
[5:15]You know, that speaks to the role. And we realized that when the door opened and they walked in,
[5:19]immediately they were sort of cast or not cast in the role based on what they brought in the door
[5:25]with their presentation of themselves. And I was like, you know, this happens in real life.
[5:30]I do it. You do it. Everyone does it. People don't talk about it, but they do it. You walk by
[5:35]someone on the street. You see someone, you know, maybe on one of your Zoom calls or and you're like,
[5:39]huh, she's this. He's that, you know, and based on what you see them wearing. And it's like
[5:45]an instinctive human response. So I just want you to win at that response and become more present
[5:51]to it. And when you become more present to it, what ends up happening is you connect to yourself.
[5:57]It's a connection to yourself because you have to take the time to think about yourself,
[6:01]think about what you want to present to the world, think about the fact that you're putting
[6:06]something on that's going to make you feel good. So it's like itself care is what it really is.
[6:12]And I think, you know, we're in a time right now in this country and the world where it really
[6:17]is about self care. It's about because if we don't take care of ourselves, then we're not better
[6:23]for others in any way. You know, when we take care of ourselves, we're a better mother. We're a better
[6:28]sister. We're a better wife. We're a better friend. You know, we're a better husband or we're a better
[6:33]boyfriend or we're a better, you know, it's just self care. It really is. And so this book really talks
[6:39]about how to do that and how to, you know, your closet, all the clothes that you have in your closet.
[6:44]I call it the window to your soul because it is. It's like, what are you holding onto? What once you let
[6:50]go of, you know, why won't you bring new in? You want new in your life? Maybe you want the new
[6:55]love of your life? Maybe you want the new job? Maybe you want the new home? Maybe you want, you know,
[7:02]and if you don't get rid of things that aren't serving you, how do you become an open vessel for
[7:07]all good? And it's funny, you know, I'm watching the expression on your faces. I speak and I
[7:11]think people are surprised when I speak this way about this book because this isn't, you know,
[7:16]about, well, if you wear this skirt, it makes you have a smaller waist or, you know, or, you know,
[7:21]if you wear this color, you will look younger. I mean, it's not really, it's not that kind of a book.
[7:27]I mean, there is that information in there, but it all comes from a very spiritual place. And
[7:33]because that's really what it is. It's like, you know, it's how you connect to yourself and how
[7:38]you present yourself in the world, you know, and your clothing is a tool that you have that can
[7:43]help you to do that. Well, it didn't mean to suggest anything by my expression other than I was
[7:48]just listening intently. I read your book, so I know it's in there. And I think it's great. It's
[7:53]almost like a clothing empowerment movement in a way. Yes. Right? It's more like that. Yeah, no,
[7:58]I loved your expression. I was just, I was, I love it because it's like, it makes me know that,
[8:03]like, you know, what is in the book? I think can be powerful. That's what I'm seeing in your face.
[8:07]And that's what I love. And it's kind of like people will say to me, you know, George, what's,
[8:10]what's one of your favorite things about what you do? Like, what do you love? And I always
[8:16]answer with, I love the moment when I put something on someone, you know, and she looks in the mirror
[8:23]and she's like, Oh, yeah, there I am. There's that person I want to be or I hope I am. Or
[8:33]that's what I want to say that moment of self discovery. That is my favorite part of what I do.
[8:39]and it always happens. You know, I never, when people hire me to dress them for whether it's an
[8:45]opening of a Broadway show or a movie premiere or sometimes I have women who just want to hire me
[8:51]because they want their closets filled with clothes that, you know, really can reflect who they are
[8:57]and who they want to be. And but they don't know how to do it. So like, we do, you know, we do that
[9:01]kind of work together. It's like, that's my favorite moment because that's when they discover, you know,
[9:07]I can do this. I can be this. I can have this. And I think that especially for women, it's so hard.
[9:13]You know, I really feel for women. I really, I do. It's like because all they do is take care of,
[9:20]take care of, take care of their kids, take care of their husband, take care of their like,
[9:25]they're just constantly give, give, give, giving. And then like, do they have any time for themselves?
[9:30]Do they have any moment where it can be just about them? And so like, when I usually come to
[9:35]to someone, that is one of their moments that they get to have. And so I get to experience that
[9:40]with them and I love it because then, you know, they'll call me in like a month or two weeks and
[9:46]they'll say, oh my God, I just feel so much better. You know, every time I walk out the door,
[9:52]I don't have to think, do I look okay? Am I okay? Am I enough? You know, it's funny. With my book,
[9:57]when it first came out, it was,
[10:00]your clothes change your life because you can't go naked. That was the subtitle because you
[10:03]really can't and that's why I did it because I wanted to be funny and fun and you know you
[10:09]are required to wear clothing by law. People always say well what about a nude beach? I'm like
[10:14]okay well I'll give you that but do you live your life on a nude beach? No you don't. So what we did
[10:20]was it's been some years since the book has come out and as you know we're relaunching in paperback
[10:26]on August 25th and we rewrote the forward and it's all the things that I've learned since
[10:33]the book has come out and you know I have been on the road traveling all over the country doing
[10:39]style events in all kinds of places you know Fargo, Minnesota, Pontabhedra, Florida, Minneapolis,
[10:48]Wisconsin you know just all the heartland of the country Springfield, Missouri like I've been
[10:53]everywhere. I have been dressing these women doing style events and book signings and also doing
[10:58]some local television and I've learned so much from all of these women. It's been such an education
[11:04]for me that one that I have loved and treasured because I have just been it's been like a wealth
[11:10]of knowledge of what you know women go through and and also how like it's a little different in
[11:16]different parts of the country you know different kinds of challenges. You know yes we are America but
[11:21]you know we do have different regions that have sort of different little cultural things
[11:26]you know the Midwest is different from the East Coast from the West Coast you know from the South
[11:31]you know from New England it's fascinating and so I've tried to impart some of these things that
[11:36]I've learned in the forward and then we have changed the subtitle and what and the reason that we
[11:41]changed the subtitle because I really you know I wanted to say change your clothes change your life
[11:46]because you're worth it because you are worth it you know you're worth that moment every day of
[11:52]self-care and a little bit of self-reflection to say okay what do I want to say today to the world
[11:57]you know how do I want to feel you know and to take that moment to connect to yourself is I think
[12:02]very powerful. It's almost like you're doing your own branding exercise right like you have to
[12:08]like and I don't think that everybody necessarily pauses the way you're suggesting to think deeply
[12:14]about like what they're wearing their style versus who they are like it's a whole nother level right
[12:21]like there's one thing like what looks good on my body but I feel like most women have kind of
[12:26]figured out through trial and error the kinds of things they can pull up and the kind of things
[12:30]they can't right like you know I'm not going to wear like a you know skinned kind of type like yeah
[12:36]anyway I know like a line is my thing I'm just going to stick to that however to like think more deeply
[12:41]about it the way you suggest and like what does it say about me like who do I want to be what
[12:47]do I want to show when I go out the door like when I do this it's a really interesting concept that
[12:53]I feel like people are not really talking about that's why I think you know interesting thank you
[12:57]thank you so much they're not talking about it and that's when it's so bizarre to me because
[13:02]when the stakes are high we know how to do it when you have to go to you know the PTA meeting
[13:10]and you know you're going to see all those other moms you'll take time to give yourself a blowout
[13:16]put on a little mascara put on a little lip make sure you're wearing the a line dress that you feel
[13:20]really good in because you know you're going to see those other women but why don't you do that
[13:23]all the time and here's a thing people will say to me well because you know I'm running around
[13:28]yeah but here's the deal this is like what really defines it how about when you don't do it you
[13:34]throw on anything you don't even know what you have on you go to the grocery store because you're
[13:38]going to get groceries for dinner that night and you bump into your husband's boss for some weird
[13:46]reason he happens to be there or or his wife and you're like oh god don't look at me don't look at me
[13:50]I just ran to the store because I needed to get you know some funnel for this delicious thing
[13:54]I'm making for the dinner tonight don't look at me what do you mean don't look at me we see you
[13:58]you're not invisible how the hell do you want us not to look at you of course we're looking at you
[14:02]and it's like you don't have to have those experiences how many times have you bumped into someone
[14:07]where you've been so mortified because you just feel so disheveled you hate what you have on
[14:13]and you feel horrible and my thing is if you have a close in your closet that always are the great
[14:18]colors for you by other words if you have to buy a t-shirt right because you like t-shirts in the
[14:23]summer nice cotton lightweight t-shirts and you're going to target to get the three dollar t-shirt
[14:29]just get it in the color you look good and what's the difference yeah you're buying one anyway
[14:33]so then when you are at the grocery store and you have on a little t-shirt and you've got those
[14:38]pretty blue eyes and you're wearing it with a pair of just khaki shorts and like you know it's just
[14:42]like a flip-flop but at least it's the blue t-shirt that highlights your eyes and your hair is in
[14:46]a ponytail you still look great you're not all dolled up but you're running around casual and you
[14:51]look great and that's the other thing I think that women have a very they all know how to get dressed
[14:55]up they all know what to wear you know to clean the house or to like you know do some yard work
[15:00]or do some gardening or whatever but they don't know how to like run around and be casual
[15:05]running around errands dropping the kids off to school going to the grocery store meeting a girlfriend
[15:09]for lunch you know going to a little maybe some club that you're in a meeting or whatever it is
[15:14]you know they don't know how to do that or even the girls that work which is so many right
[15:19]what if you're in a casual job what do I wear to work how do I look professional but still feel
[15:23]casual but still feel relevant but still feel moderate it's like overwhelming but when you know
[15:29]what colors do you look good on you know what silhouettes look good on your body what's flattering what's
[15:34]like you know camouflaging your challenges accentuating your assets and you know all of these things
[15:40]it all becomes a very different experience because you have a much stronger point of view and you
[15:44]also know what you want to say my look is bill in the blank my look is classic but casual my look is
[15:50]modern and cool my look is edgy and sophisticated I mean whatever it is and if you start to pay attention
[15:58]you know it becomes a different thing on the other thing I love to tell is that you know I'll clean
[16:02]out someone's closet you know we'll go through things and you know she'll say to me well I just
[16:07]wear that to walk the dog and I'm like um are you single well yeah oh did you want to stay single
[16:14]did you want a Friday night date I don't know like like girl who's coming up to you like in that
[16:20]like put on the cute jeans that fit you great and if you're wearing a little sweatshirt maybe
[16:25]it's the sweatshirt that like makes your eyes look great or lights up your skin and yeah when
[16:29]you start talking to someone on the street and and it's like you meet this guy or whatever you're
[16:33]feeling good you're you're presenting a different part of yourself you're not apologizing for yourself
[16:39]I have found that in spades across the country women apologize for themselves so much subconsciously
[16:47]because they just threw on clothes they feel horrible inside they don't feel like they look good
[16:52]they don't feel confident even when not just like running around in their lives but like how
[16:56]about when they go to the cocktail party in the neighborhood and they see the girl walk in you know
[17:01]they're like why does she always look cute she always looks cute she always has the cute dress
[17:05]on or she always has the cute top on and I'm sitting over here like a big schlunk I hate the way
[17:10]I look you know and that that is horrible you know that's like not that's not good to yourself
[17:15]that's not being good to who you are so that's what I love about empowering women you know people
[17:21]use that word so much it's really I hate to even use it myself because it's gotten so overused
[17:26]but when you hear it in this context that's what it really means give yourself that moment of
[17:32]confidence and you know self care and self love that's what empowerment is you know to give
[17:39]yourself so that you don't feel less than in a situation I mean that you know the car the school
[17:44]the school pick up line oh my god that is just the worst you know they're like feeling horrible
[17:50]they've got the baseball hat on you know to like cover their hair you know that they don't even
[17:55]know what they're wearing you know just because it's like so I like to set people up for success
[18:00]and that's so much of what this book does that's awesome I mean it's so true I mean what you wear
[18:07]I think you're talking about two different things right how you seem to other people and like the
[18:11]the shame when you're not as put together as you could be but also how you feel when you present
[18:16]a certain way like and I've actually I feel like I've been thinking about clothing more than usual
[18:21]because of the quarantine because when I left home I brought two weeks of clothes and I was like
[18:26]that's all I'm gonna be gone for two weeks let me just grab a few things so a lot of days like
[18:30]I don't usually sit around in my sweatpants or my pajamas all day but you know like most people
[18:35]during quarantine there has been a lot more of that than then usual when I'm busy running around
[18:39]like everybody else so it's amazing to me how much even what you wear affects your mood right like
[18:46]if you don't rest or you don't wash you know brush your hair you don't like you know get out
[18:51]of the jammies or whatever it I think over time it really wears away at your like energy level
[18:58]even that's so true and yes thank you for bringing up you know with the quarantine and the fact
[19:04]that this is happening you know that's absolutely true so what happens there is the reason that
[19:09]you feel bad and I've talked to so many women is that you start to disconnect from yourself
[19:16]and the way that you know this is that when you do have that zoom call or you know whether it's for
[19:22]work or it's like a virtual birthday party which I've been to so many I've seen more people
[19:27]in the last three months on camera communicating than I have seen in the last three years
[19:35]and so you know like what happens you hear women say oh you know at a zoom call I did my hair
[19:42]I did my makeup I put on the cute top I feel so much better why why is that ask yourself you
[19:48]know why that is because you took the time to connect to yourself it's not because you look prettier
[19:54]it's not you know it's not there's no pretension in what I'm saying and that's where people get
[20:00]times when it when they first hear me talk, they like, I don't care what other people think,
[20:03]no, darling, it's not for the other people. It's for you. It's for you. There's no
[20:09]pretension. As a matter of fact, it's the dead opposite. And it's the dead opposite of the
[20:14]fact that it is for other people. It's for yourself. What do you want in your life? How do
[20:19]you want to be seen? How good do you want to feel? That's what this is about. This isn't
[20:25]about anyone else. And so once they understand that they're like, oh, yes, that makes so much
[20:31]sense. So with this quarantine, yeah, listen, where are the sweats? But where are the ones that
[20:37]make you feel good? And if the ones that you have don't make you feel good, go online and find
[20:42]an inexpensive pair that there's tons of them. And now that we're into summer, it's all about
[20:47]the tank tops and the t-shirts and the shorts, there's so many places to go to shop for clothing
[20:53]that's inexpensive. Clothing does not have to be expensive at all. I am not a proponent of that.
[20:59]See, that's the other thing where I love talking because it's like, there's nothing pretentious
[21:03]about this. There's no, this is not about glamour. This is not about, you know, this is not a pretty
[21:08]woman situation, you know, the movie. This is about you and self care. And you can get clothing
[21:15]at any price point. You can get it very inexpensively that makes you feel good and look good.
[21:20]So it's up to you. We all, when people work with me, I always say, you're your own banker.
[21:25]I don't know what your situation is. You decide, you know, and then I can go, because I can make,
[21:29]I can take you anywhere and go and shop. As a matter of fact, when I referenced being all over the
[21:34]country doing these style events, I did them in these boutiques that were very inexpensive.
[21:39]Most of the items in the boutique were under $100 and a lot of them were under $50.
[21:44]So it wasn't like I was like, you know, at these glamorous, you know, very expensive boutiques all over
[21:48]the country dealing with women. No, no, no. I was dealing with women that, you know, at every price
[21:54]point. And I do. And here's the other thing, I'm on QVC, you know, I work for a brand called
[21:58]logo by Lori Goldstein. And her clothes are so inexpensive, but they're fantastic in wonderful fabrics
[22:05]and, you know, amazing comfort. She knows a woman's body. It's like fabulous. I love working with
[22:10]these clothes because it's another tool that I can give people, you know, for their closet,
[22:14]I call it a closet full of tens. You know, if it's not a ten, get rid of it.
[22:18]I love that. That was actually one of the best lines in the book I thought because I was like,
[22:22]yeah, why do I keep all these clothes around that they're like, eh, but I don't know. Then I
[22:27]feel bad because I bought them. Right. Well, and that's the whole thing. Like, you know, that's
[22:32]where I want to help. So like, when you go shopping, when you kind of know what you look good in,
[22:36]and by the way, all of this comes from for me, people probably like, well, where does he get his
[22:40]information from? Well, how does he know what looks good? Well, it all comes from film and television.
[22:46]So meaning that when you see someone in a movie or on any television show, or by the way, you know,
[22:53]like even the debates, you know, like, you know, political debates, do you know the hours of like
[22:59]conversation that go into what these people, the color of the tie, the color of the jacket,
[23:04]the dress color, like what these people are wearing and what it says and what it's going to invoke,
[23:09]it's huge. And so what that this is what I realized, like if you look at your favorite sitcom,
[23:15]really start to look at what people with your coloring are wearing, how they're going to pop
[23:19]the eyes on camera, how they're going to illuminate the skin, how they're going to, you know,
[23:23]bring out the hair color for everyone, you know, and so that's where I get all we call them,
[23:29]you know, tricks of the trade or hacks, if you will. And so it comes from, you know, a structured
[23:34]place. And I just think that, you know, it's so important for you to take the time to give yourself,
[23:40]you know, self care, you are worth it. You really are worth it.
[23:44]Love it. Do you have any advice to aspiring authors now that you've survived the process
[23:48]of writing this book? You know, I think that you have to be passionate about what you say.
[23:54]I'm sure that that's the obvious, but I don't think that you can be overwhelmed. Don't, I think
[23:59]if you concentrate on the fact of like the how, how am I going to get this book published,
[24:04]how am I going to write a book? How is it going to happen? You're focusing on the wrong thing.
[24:09]You have to focus on what you want to say and say it. And it's interesting how I know this
[24:14]might sound a little, you know, woo, woo, if you will, but the universe does take over. And you don't
[24:20]have to worry about the how, but you just have to be really clear about what you want to say
[24:25]and how you want to say it and do that. And then, you know, you'll start to align yourself with
[24:31]the right people and, and you'll get to, you'll get to a publisher, you'll get to an agent,
[24:34]you'll get to all of those things that you're supposed to go through. But I think this is a time
[24:38]where we really, we want to hear from you. So, you know, one of my favorite books is
[24:43]Bernay Brown, Darren Greatley, you know, I'm obsessed with her. And the reason that I'm obsessed
[24:47]with her, and she talks about, you know, share how to be vulnerable and how that, that affects you
[24:52]and your life and, and how great it is. I love because she talks to us in a way where it's like
[24:58]a best friend that sat down and had coffee with us. And she's like, okay, here's the deal.
[25:03]You know, and I just, I love that. And I think that, you know, I love people, I love making people
[25:10]feel good in any way that I can, whether it's dressing them and helping them to discover who they
[25:15]are or what they want to be and how they want to be seen or, you know, being on television and
[25:20]inspiring them, you know, doing a wonderful podcast like this and being able to just let people know
[25:26]that they do matter. And by the way, and here's the other thing, you have to look in the mirror
[25:30]every day and just look at yourself and say, I'm enough. I am enough because you are.
[25:34]I love it. You're like a wardrobe therapist. It's great.
[25:39]Well, you know, it's funny because we talked about, you know, you said, you know, no one's really
[25:43]talking about this. And I don't think people are, you know, like I really don't. And my, one of my goals
[25:49]is, you know, I, I really, I love Oprah Winfrey. I love Super Soul Sunday. I love what she talks
[25:56]about. And she's talked about every aspect of life and this kind of work. She talks about it with
[26:04]food. She talks about it with money. She talks about it with love. But she has never talked about
[26:11]this part of it with the clothing. And I just want to get to her and say, I want to talk to you
[26:18]about this because I know from watching her, you know, with all of the interviews that she does
[26:24]and all of the work that she does, she subscribes to this. I know she does. And because I see it,
[26:30]you know, and I just think that, you know, I think it's easier for, for people when, when you do
[26:34]subscribe to it and something I just, I'm so excited to have out there and to really help women
[26:39]and just, you know, and let them know you are enough. This is self-care like and then give them
[26:44]all the fun, you know, tricks of the trade. I will tell you one other story because I know we
[26:49]have probably have to stop because you know me. I'll go on forever. Yeah. After this. I'm putting
[26:54]the hook or whatever that expression is. Yeah. Giving you that. So it's just really funny. I got this
[26:58]woman. She came to me through a friend of a friend of a friend and she called me and I never met her.
[27:02]And so I went up to her house and we started doing her closet and she was in a relationship.
[27:08]They were not engaged. You know, she had been married. He had been married. She was in a job where
[27:13]she was having her own business but she was, it wasn't going the way she wanted and all of these
[27:17]things. And so we were going through her closet and, you know, we started pulling out things and
[27:21]it was like Eddie Bauer. Eddie Bauer like skirt, Eddie Bauer dresses, Eddie Bauer jacket,
[27:28]Eddie Bauer, you know, like all of these, Eddie, and I was like, and it was all like very like,
[27:33]I was like, what is all this stuff? Because we were laughing and she said, I know it's Eddie
[27:37]Bauer. And I said, I didn't even know they made all this stuff. I said, why do you have all this in your
[27:41]closet? She goes, because when I get off the subway at night from work, she's like, there's an
[27:45]Eddie Bauer store. I said, walk the other way. Don't go in a pet store. And in our working together,
[27:51]she got married. I did her wedding dress. She, her business like totally became amazing.
[27:57]You know, she like all of these changes because she started, she just became such a different person
[28:03]once she had closed that made her feel incredible and let her say what she wanted to say to the
[28:08]world. You know, she was an entrepreneur and it was just, it was a wonderful to watch.
[28:12]That's awesome. Well, it's so great what you do and your way of making people feel good about
[28:16]themselves. It's really, it's just super honorable. Really, it's, it's like a service that you do.
[28:21]It's really amazing what you do for making people feel good about themselves. And that's one of the
[28:25]keys to, you know, happiness, really, that inner sense of confidence. And anyway, so it's really
[28:30]great what you do. And I'm glad you shoved it all into the book so that we can all have a little
[28:35]piece of it to take along with us now. Well, thank you for having me. I really appreciate it.
[28:39]Oh, it's my pleasure. All right. Thanks, George. Bye. Okay. Bye-bye. I hope you enjoyed this episode of
[28:45]Advice Monday on the July book blast. I know that some of these were from the quarantine and some
[28:51]might seem even old, even though they've just come out, but I just had to get them out in one big
[28:55]sweep. And I hope that you've gotten some useful life tips as you've listened today.
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