Sydney Sadick, AIM HIGH
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[1:55]The new sadic is a TV correspondent and writer concentrating on fashion and celebrity news.
[2:00]Her book, Aim High, How to Style Your Life and Achieve Your Goals is what we're going to be talking about.
[2:06]She has interviewed some of the world's most admired celebrities, designers, politicians and stylists.
[2:11]In addition to covering New York Fashion Week, the Met Gala, the CFDA fashion awards and many other top events.
[2:17]She's a retail ambassador for many popular brands equipped with the strong educational foundation and journalism at George Washington University's School of Media and Public Affairs.
[2:24]And a deep root of connection to the fashion industry, Sydney delivers unparalleled expertise and style savvy to every facet of correspondence from editorial coverage, celebrity interviews and live broadcast reporting to hosting consumer facing events.
[2:38]Sydney's ability to generate buzz and make fashion accessible to the masses is enhanced by her vibrant, fearless personality and loyal following.
[2:47]Welcome, Sydney. Thank you so much for coming in, Momstone. Have time to read books.
[2:51]Thanks for having me. I'm so excited. The Queen of Books.
[2:55]The Queen of Fashion.
[2:57]Thank you.
[2:58]Okay, Aim High, your new book. Please tell listeners what this book is about and what inspired you to write this book.
[3:07]Well, I host a lot of fashion segments for shows like the Today Show E inside edition.
[3:12]As my segments ended, I would get hundreds of DMs on Instagram from women of all ages ranging from teenagers to women in their 60s saying that they needed more.
[3:22]They wanted more fashion advice than they wanted to know about confidence. They had all these questions that they couldn't get answered in my six minute segment.
[3:31]So that was kind of where the idea came from. How can I expand on what people already know of me in a place that you can constantly go back to and just learn more.
[3:41]And so Aim High is really that place.
[3:44]And it's a go to read for motivational advice on fashion tips, but also how to bring out your confidence from within, because I always say that confidence is an accessory that never goes out of style.
[3:55]And it's just as difficult of something to bring out as much as developing your own personal style, those two things really come together.
[4:03]And it's also to sort of explain how the way that you dress can affect your mood, and it helps to achieve the goals that you want out of life.
[4:10]I know for myself, they're at quarantine. I was living in sweatpants at the beginning.
[4:14]I was very unmotivated. I was very depressed by everything going on in the world.
[4:19]And then I realized wait a minute, if I want to shift my views and my mindset, I need to start dressing like the girl I used to be.
[4:25]Put on my makeup. I put on structured pants. I wear up at the top. I am like the original me. And so this whole notion of aiming high is something I think that's the more relevant today, because of the pandemic.
[4:37]We all need that positivity and just that emphasis on self care and that goes right down to where I am totally impressed that you're dressing up in your home every day. That's amazing.
[4:46]I love it. And it's inspirational. And I need to take a piece of that. I have these three sweatpants that actually I've learned about from real simple magazine and they did like a inventory of like the best joggers and I was like,
[4:58]ooh, I'm kind of tired of my sweatpants. So I ordered those sweatpants.
[5:02]And I like every day. I'm like, like right there, great, like right there.
[5:06]But they're comfortable. If I get it, you could see on the side of our zoom screen right now. I have like six pairs of sweatpants are just sitting on the side, but I say those are for after hours. That's what I can change into once I'm done with the work that needs to be done.
[5:18]That's my own.
[5:19]No, no, I do dress up sometimes. I, you know, sometimes because it does make me feel good. It's absolutely true. And when you feel better, you even eat better. It's like this whole like
[5:27]riffle effect. But I guess I totally understand. And I love time in the book. You gave a whole example of the beginning when you were trying to help a woman dress for three weddings and like a week.
[5:37]And you ended up finding this like magic item I'd never heard of before that like morphs into 57 different things.
[5:43]And you could see her confidence really coming out and how like she really owned that outfit and the accessories that you found and you were like the best shopper ever.
[5:53]I need you to like figure out how you like don't spend that much money. You get a hundred different things. You make all these different outfits and then the end result, of course, is this super confident person who can like waltz into the wedding feeling really great.
[6:06]So I thought that was such a great sort of opening story that you included.
[6:10]Thank you. Yeah, that was definitely I would say one of the most memorable moments of the last few years. It was my first I would say like real creative segment on Hoda and Jenna where I got to really sort of create a concept and have someone of you
[6:24]be changing on live television as we went. Let me had a little mini dressing room for her with a curtain to like ram back and forth.
[6:32]The dress which was called the convertible rat dress was being wrapped around like a million different ways. I mean, it was a whole situation.
[6:38]But this woman I mean, which was like so excited. And that was the moment I realized too, doesn't matter where you live in the country. We live in New York. So we're surrounded by fashion constantly.
[6:48]This was a woman who lived in a very suburban town outside of Philadelphia and Pennsylvania where just wasn't part of her life. She didn't even care, but this is a moment where she realized wait a minute.
[6:57]There is something to be said here. I actually do like fashion. It just took me a moment to figure it out. And I think it happens for every woman at a different point of life.
[7:06]So tell me again this story and you included it in your book of your complete like go getterness from your Harvard summer program to launching a blog to becoming you working all through college. I mean, this is like insane.
[7:20]So just give us a little more color into all that.
[7:24]Well, I think a lot of moms will relate to this when you have a child who maybe is super shy is maybe afraid of going to summer camp or doing sort of like the traditional things that all the kids on, you know, that
[7:35]I even other seats are doing. I was just never that girl to leave my family and go away even on a sleepover. I was just very attached to my mom and probably still am a little bit.
[7:45]So they, my parents were like, Sydney, do you want to go to a college outside of New York? How are they going to think that you're ready for that these schools? They know that you haven't done anything that's outside of, you know, your sort of box.
[7:56]I said, you're right and my mom brought up the idea of Harvard summer school and my hands had gone and this is like years ago with a big age gap between us.
[8:04]But she told me that she had this amazing experience and I was like, well, she did it and she's a home body.
[8:08]You know, I could get into it. So I applied and got in.
[8:11]And when I went to go and select the courses that were able to meet the two that really sounded just the most appealing and for no other reason just the descriptions were in journalism.
[8:21]And so I signed up for these two classes with all Harvard professors. I was like the youngest person in my classes because for some reason it was more targeted towards grad students.
[8:30]But they let me in and I was, you know, just 16.
[8:33]And for the first assignment for one of the classes that you need to come back in the next day and start your own blog, write that whatever you want.
[8:40]This is in 2010. So Instagram is non-existent.
[8:43]The word WordPress is this new term that people are just trying to figure out what that even means and what you can do with it.
[8:49]And my dorm room, what's coincidentally, the dorm room that Mark Zuckerberg was in lower house.
[8:55]Years ago, I create this book and I'm like, you know what, if I'm going to write about something needs to be what I know.
[9:00]And I have a very stylish mom. I had a very stylish grandmother. I can write about fashion.
[9:05]So I come up with the name style solutions and I start posting my outfits like you see a traditional fashion bloggers today.
[9:10]It was becoming wildly red across this summer program for whatever reason.
[9:15]And when I got back to New York, I was like, I don't want to get this up. I could totally see this becoming a brand.
[9:20]And I said, but it needs to be different. I can't be posting my outfits. It doesn't have enough depth for me.
[9:25]So in addition to just the digital skills I wanted this program, I said I wanted to really take the reporting skills that I learned in the other class that I was taking that summer.
[9:33]And I said, I want to start interviewing celebrities. So it's 16 years old. You don't really know how you're going to make that happen.
[9:38]But conveniently, the New York Post has always these great little stories and advertisements.
[9:43]And there was an ad for Rihanna, who's going to be launching her debut book at Barnes and Noble, which is like ironic and, you know, the life is so funny like that.
[9:52]it all comes round. And I got my school to let me to lead a class early. I changed in the middle of the bathroom.
[10:00]eight thirds to be out of my little uniform,
[10:02]put on whatever clothes I had.
[10:04]And I waited in the slime for three hours.
[10:06]As the last person, I swore we on,
[10:07]it was gonna leave.
[10:08]I was begging like the team I saw around,
[10:10]like, she's gonna stay, she's gonna stay.
[10:12]She stayed.
[10:13]I got up to her and I said,
[10:15]you know, instead of just signing my book with your name,
[10:17]can you please write down your favorite fashion accessory?
[10:20]I didn't know if she was gonna do it.
[10:21]I couldn't see there was so much room
[10:22]between me and her at the table.
[10:23]And I have the book here.
[10:24]So I look at it sometimes.
[10:25]She wrote it down.
[10:26]She said it was sparse.
[10:28]And so I was able to turn that quote into an article
[10:30]and say, Rihanna reveals her favorite fashion accessory
[10:33]and like recap her best moments in scarves.
[10:36]The article blows up.
[10:37]It gets like 10,000 unique people in that first hour.
[10:40]I thought it was hair accessories.
[10:42]I could have sworn you said something else.
[10:44]Was it hair?
[10:45]That's amazing.
[10:46]It was scarves.
[10:47]Yeah, it was words.
[10:48]There were definitely two words in it.
[10:50]Maybe.
[10:51]Oh, maybe there's your book.
[10:52]It would have been changed to hair accessory
[10:54]because she used the scarves as like,
[10:56]turban's across her hair.
[10:58]Okay.
[10:58]So yeah, so it was a combination,
[11:00]but she really meant scarves as what she meant.
[11:02]We wrote that in the book,
[11:03]but I think it was more leaning towards scarves
[11:05]because she always wore them across her.
[11:07]Got it.
[11:08]That's all right.
[11:08]This book is good detail, good catch of detail.
[11:12]But she wrote this down.
[11:13]And so the article blew up.
[11:14]And that was the moment I was like,
[11:15]if I can get Rihanna to talk about something,
[11:17]then I should be able to ask many more celebrities.
[11:19]And from there, I got into the daily for a row.
[11:22]Went to GW for college and school media public affairs,
[11:25]freelance for them throughout college
[11:27]and intern for Rachel Zoh,
[11:28]Oprah magazine, like,
[11:29]always just kept my feet wet.
[11:31]And she had an editor since I graduated
[11:33]for the daily until I left two years later
[11:35]to pursue being on air.
[11:37]So it's been like a 10 year sort of journey.
[11:40]And people are like,
[11:41]you're so young, you're so young.
[11:42]I feel old because it's been going on for so many years.
[11:46]Do you know?
[11:46]Yeah.
[11:47]So is that like your dream,
[11:49]like the on air component of your life?
[11:52]Like, do you want to have your own show?
[11:53]It sounds like that's where this is going.
[11:55]Like one day you're going to have your own fashion show
[11:57]on Bravo or something.
[11:58]Is that what you're at where you're at?
[12:00]Yeah, definitely.
[12:01]And you know what?
[12:02]Like fashion has been my core.
[12:04]It's been the base of what I've done.
[12:06]But because of it,
[12:07]and then what I've also been doing,
[12:08]other things are our quarantine.
[12:09]Like it's opened the conversation
[12:11]to talk so much more about fashion.
[12:13]And I love fashion as a way to get into someone
[12:16]and to sort of just talk about fun things.
[12:19]But I'm really interested in expanding that
[12:22]and really having conversations just beyond fashion too
[12:25]but how to mold these different categories together.
[12:29]Very cool.
[12:30]What a show.
[12:31]A show.
[12:32]Yes.
[12:33]Now it's so great though,
[12:34]because it's like you can just turn on your camera
[12:36]and you have a show.
[12:37]I mean, you know, like it's so just intermediate
[12:40]if that's even the right word.
[12:41]But I feel like you don't need the network.
[12:45]I mean, it's better, right?
[12:47]Because you get a bigger audience right away
[12:48]but you can test it out, right?
[12:51]But that's what I've been actually doing
[12:53]throughout quarantine.
[12:54]I started a daily Instagram live show
[12:56]and we bring on different celebrities and designers every day.
[12:59]And sometimes I think the users are so crazy
[13:00]that it might be just as much as what people
[13:02]are watching on television.
[13:03]And media is changing so much.
[13:05]I think people really want that accessibility.
[13:08]And there's something cool.
[13:09]I'm like, you do your Instagram live too.
[13:10]But your fans and audience can ask questions as they go
[13:14]and they feel like engaged and involved.
[13:16]And I think we all wanna feel less alone right now
[13:19]and that whole notion of community is so important.
[13:22]Totally.
[13:23]You're right.
[13:24]And of course you have your Instagram live show.
[13:25]I'm sorry, I should have thought to.
[13:26]No, let's go back to the fashion specifics
[13:32]for like two seconds to the aforementioned moms
[13:35]who are in their sweatpants, perhaps me most of the time.
[13:39]What changes are within our grasp
[13:43]that are not like so hard to implement
[13:46]that can make us feel better?
[13:48]Yeah.
[13:49]So by the way, it's like if you're letting yourself up,
[13:52]don't change out of it.
[13:54]If that's what makes you feel comfortable and good right now,
[13:56]leave the sweatpants as your base
[13:58]and kind of go for it a little more
[14:00]in the other elements of your wardrobe.
[14:02]So when you're doing all these Zoom talks
[14:04]and I'm sure a lot of moms are doing school conferences
[14:06]or they will be soon,
[14:07]it's really about focusing on the upper portions
[14:09]of our bodies and how we can make a statement
[14:11]from the waist up.
[14:13]So I think an easy way to do that
[14:15]is to throw on a statement pair of earrings,
[14:17]like a hoop, a chain necklace,
[14:19]something that just adds a little bit of glamour
[14:22]and boldness without trying too hard
[14:24]and it doesn't take that much effort.
[14:26]I think layering is also something that is really easy to do.
[14:30]So you have like a t-shirt
[14:31]then you could throw on a little blazer.
[14:34]I think blazers are a little stiff
[14:35]when we're at home.
[14:36]It's a little hard for me to even do that
[14:38]but a really crisp cardigan always works really well.
[14:42]And I think going for some color or even a pattern
[14:46]just a way so when people are looking at you
[14:48]that it kind of brightens things up a bit.
[14:50]I think that's also really easy
[14:52]but I think it's totally fine to stick
[14:54]with your comfortable silhouettes.
[14:56]It's just about as going for them
[14:58]in a little bit more of a fashion or a word way.
[15:02]Mind you, I know this will be on YouTube
[15:03]and on the podcast.
[15:04]So for the people who are not watching this on YouTube
[15:07]to see our outfits right now,
[15:10]Sydney is wearing this little white t-shirt very cute
[15:13]with a gold, oh, there's a little hard on it.
[15:15]Gorgeous, long looks like it must be fake
[15:18]because the so gorgeous hair is covering it
[15:20]with a chain gold necklace and giant hoop
[15:22]really thick earrings and like full on makeup
[15:25]and like whatever and I am wearing a black t-shirt
[15:30]under a black long sleeve t-shirt
[15:32]with like my kid's school lanyard around my neck
[15:35]and my hair in a ponytail.
[15:36]So, and this actually put makeup on.
[15:38]So this is better than it could have been
[15:40]and I'm not in my pajamas which is also great
[15:43]and I'm not even in sweatpants today.
[15:44]And like, new leggings.
[15:46]It's a different, it's an I'm single.
[15:49]I don't have a family.
[15:50]I don't have the responsibility other than myself.
[15:53]And I think like I said before,
[15:55]it depends on where you are and life
[15:56]that you're probably shit.
[15:58]You know what I mean?
[15:59]When I said, I don't know what I'm gonna be like.
[16:01]But this is me like right now in my twenties
[16:04]who doesn't have anyone to worry about but me.
[16:06]And that's the truth.
[16:07]Like it's different for you and for a lot of moms.
[16:09]Well, thank you for letting me off the hook
[16:11]in that gentle way.
[16:12]But what about your sourcing of inexpensive,
[16:18]really cute make a big pop like items
[16:21]that you seem to find for all the people on TV?
[16:24]Yeah, I just, for me,
[16:26]I do better in Zara's and Forever 21's
[16:29]than I would ever do in a luxurious like label
[16:33]brand like a good picture once the other.
[16:34]I don't feel like feel comfortable with those brands.
[16:38]Like it's fun to have a sports handbag or a shoe.
[16:41]But in terms of clothing,
[16:42]like I don't think that's where women should be spending,
[16:45]you know, thousands and thousands of dollars.
[16:46]I just personally don't see the value.
[16:48]You can find great quality clothing
[16:50]and stores like Zara,
[16:52]one of my favorite websites is called The Verge Girl.
[16:55]And it's kind of like the new nasty out.
[16:58]I'm ready to go down to date again.
[17:00]But that is a perfect girl.
[17:01]And some of it looks, I'm just warning you
[17:03]of what I'll achieve in aisle
[17:04]if we go to the home page.
[17:06]But the quality is so strong.
[17:07]You can just like sit through it
[17:08]and find those pieces like their oversized sweaters.
[17:11]It's such good quality.
[17:12]Everything is around $100.
[17:14]And it works.
[17:16]I don't believe in spending a lot of money also on trends.
[17:19]But you know, $100 is a lot for like a sweater.
[17:23]Like keep taking me lower and lower.
[17:25]I mean, yeah.
[17:26]Oh, you can go lower too.
[17:28]But in terms of like the high quality sort of like cash
[17:30]and you're feeling sweater between the $100
[17:33]and the pair going to like, you know,
[17:35]booming deals are never gonna be under 100 ever.
[17:38]But Forever 21 sites like that,
[17:41]you can find pieces under $50 that are amazing.
[17:43]I never put anything over $50 on my segments ever.
[17:46]It's always under 50.
[17:48]And, you know, places like, oh, maybe I love the jeans
[17:53]and jeggings from area of American Eagle.
[17:55]So I think they're self flattering.
[17:56]I think that's all women.
[17:57]My daughter just told me about American Eagle.
[18:00]And we got her some clothes.
[18:02]And they're amazing.
[18:03]And I was like, I think I have to order from here.
[18:05]Yeah.
[18:05]I was unexpectedly wowed by American Eagle.
[18:09]No, I would like an ad with not an ad
[18:11]this actually happens soon.
[18:12]You know, none of these are ads.
[18:14]They're just opinions.
[18:15]But Lulu says another right site tons of pieces
[18:17]under $50 that are still fun.
[18:19]Okay.
[18:20]Lulu has a top to be honest.
[18:23]I do not like to spend money on clothes at all
[18:27]and don't very often.
[18:28]I like to spend money on books.
[18:30]Like, yeah, but I do also feel like it's important
[18:34]to like put together.
[18:35]And, you know, I always hear my mother's voice in my head,
[18:37]like, come on, you know, pull yourself together.
[18:39]Like, wear a cute outfit.
[18:41]That's awesome, you know.
[18:42]Yeah, but it's not about spending money.
[18:45]And that's what I tried to explain to people.
[18:47]Like, style doesn't equal a price tag.
[18:49]It's just a mindset.
[18:51]And the first place that I always suggest shopping
[18:53]first is your own closet.
[18:54]And people always say to me on Instagram,
[18:56]you're so many clothes.
[18:57]Yes, brand said me clothes every single week.
[18:59]And I'm very, very lucky.
[19:01]But half the time, I'm rewearing the same pieces each week.
[19:03]And you can't even tell because I'm just styling it
[19:05]in a way that tricks everyone from not realizing.
[19:08]And they think it's a new outfit.
[19:09]But it's not.
[19:10]So I think it's just developing that craft
[19:12]and like knowing what looks good on you
[19:14]and what you like and then just mixing and matching.
[19:16]And that way you don't feel like you have to go shopping.
[19:18]Like, I never really feel like I have to go shopping.
[19:21]What do I really want to at this point?
[19:22]That's not what says important to me right now.
[19:24]Yeah. So what do you think is going to happen
[19:26]to all the designers and everybody
[19:28]if nobody ever goes to events anymore?
[19:30]Like, what if events do you know what I mean?
[19:32]I was like, I opened my closet.
[19:33]I have a few like really fancy dresses.
[19:35]And I was like, oh, I wonder if I'll ever wear these again.
[19:37]And then I was thinking, what about all the people
[19:38]who make all these fancy dresses?
[19:39]What is their whole business model?
[19:41]They must have been doing great.
[19:43]And you know, obviously, I mean, I sound like more on,
[19:45]but you know, obviously I know that the economy has been hit
[19:49]and basically every possible sector.
[19:51]But I just happen to be thinking about high end,
[19:54]formal wear companies and what's going on with them.
[19:57]It's so true.
[19:57]I've been in Hampton since March.
[19:59]I've gone back to the city.
[20:00]like twice. And when I went back most recently, I had my rack of clothing, which is where I would
[20:04]usually keep the clothes I would wear in like that week. And I was going to tons of events that I just
[20:08]had to say organized. That rack is all of the clothes that I supposed to wear, the week that city
[20:14]shut down. And I saw this like gorgeous parry-winkle sequin blue gown. I was supposed to wear the
[20:18]frick museum for their young adults party that I was on the committee of. I'm like, am I ever wearing
[20:23]that again? So yeah, a lot of designers have had to shift their focus. Jonathan Simkai is
[20:29]doing like total, ready to wear, very cool, just like leggings and t-shirts the most casual I've
[20:35]ever seen him. Michael Costello, when the pandemic first hit, he stopped making his gowns and just
[20:42]transitioned to making masks with his million mask initiative to give masks to the frontline workers
[20:48]in LA and other cities. And he was on my first guest on my lunch, I would sit in the show and
[20:53]he actually brought us into the bathroom. We could see these masks being made, which is super cool.
[20:57]Christian Seriano, like he's definitely doing a little bit more like licensing deals I can see
[21:02]with different companies. I think they're all trying to just figure it out. I really hope that we
[21:07]will be able to go to events. I think it's just going to take time and especially for my generation
[21:12]of millennials, they don't like that notion of waiting. I read like crazy these articles like time
[21:18]magazine just an article comparing the pandemic to Spanish flu and it like literally did
[21:23]side by side. And to me, it says like, you know, another year is going to be washed. And when
[21:29]things do hopefully normalize in some capacity, we're all going to have to have a really big
[21:34]coming out party and everyone's going to have to just be decked out in like their best outfits
[21:38]ever and make up in the last two years. Yeah. Exactly. So what's coming next for you? Do you have
[21:46]any idea like where are things going? You're doing your own show basically or you have this amazing
[21:51]book that just came out. Now what what's like you're in the next year? What's your planning?
[21:57]I think planning is the one thing that's such a controlling person that I can't really do right now.
[22:03]And I think a lot of women are struggling with that where we're not really in control of our futures.
[22:09]So I've kind of taped like a step back and realized that I can't plan. My goal before the
[22:16]pandemic was to work for a specific network which I thought I was moving to LA and this was all
[22:22]and then I was like that can't even be my goal now because that's not the focus of viewers. Media
[22:27]and fashion, they're both changing so much right now that it has to be a very fluid situation.
[22:32]But the one thing I can control is myself and this lunch I'm at Sydney show is something
[22:37]I fully have control. I do everything I host. I book I produce and I'm loving that hands on
[22:43]this that you know I'm able to sort of have right now because it makes me fulfilled. So I am
[22:50]continuing to build that out. I host Instagram lives on Fridays for the today shows new
[22:55]millennial platform called Tomorrow by Today which is a very smart concept to what I started on
[22:59]lunch and what Sydney and continuing to focus on the book and just doing fun events and trying to
[23:05]do virtual things with my followers because I really want people to take COVID seriously and to stay
[23:10]home as much as they can and not and wear their masks and my generation is just so out of touch
[23:16]and a lot of ways with how to deal with this and I'm just trying to set a good example and I
[23:21]think it's it's easier set than done but I'm just really trying so yeah and hopefully more products
[23:27]I launched an aim my hoodie with my book and it was a collaboration with Appleshire brand
[23:32]that Buddha and sold out with my 24 hours and I want to continue to release product to just make
[23:37]people feel good and that's it's possible to everyone. That's a great idea. Do you have any advice
[23:43]to aspiring authors having just written a book? Wow I mean us and I've never given birth but I feel
[23:50]like it must sort of be like the equivalence mentally of giving birth to a baby because we're putting
[23:55]something out into the world you know but you know I went to school for journalism so I wrote
[24:01]I've written my whole life so for me that that wasn't really hard but I think it's just about
[24:05]coming up with an idea and how it can be different. We're in such a world where there are so many
[24:10]people who are so good at the same kind of skills but it's about our perspectives that make us
[24:14]different so it's about finding that niche and what makes your voice a little different from the
[24:19]rest so I think it's just figuring that out right in line of lists but you wouldn't give way
[24:24]better advice than I would like I'm sure you'll like a great method for me it's you know what I don't
[24:29]think anybody I think everybody I ask has something a little bit different to say I mean it's not
[24:34]it's just so neat and it reflects the personality and I just like hearing and make lots of lists
[24:38]I don't think anyone has said that before so there you go post it notes everywhere I try to
[24:43]clean up for you today thank you well Sydney thank you so much thanks for coming on mom's
[24:49]no time to read bugs congratulations on your book and I can't wait to see where you and going in
[24:54]life yeah I'm like you're like a little shooting star so we'll see what happens thank you so much
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