Lake Bell, Lennon Parham, and Amy Solomon, NOTES FROM THE BATHROOM LINE

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[0:38]Amy Solomon is the editor of Notes From the Bathroom Line, humor, art, and low-grade panic

[0:44]from 150 of the funniest women in comedy.

[0:47]Amy Solomon is a film and TV producer, most recently on HBO's Barry and Silicon Valley.

[0:52]She runs Alec Berg's production company, where she develops movies and TV that you'll

[0:56]hopefully see someday.

[0:58]She's originally from Chicago, but now lives in Los Angeles with her dogs,

[1:01]Nan and Goose, who are perfect.

[1:03]She's a graduate at Princeton University and loves baseball and her friends' kids.

[1:07]Welcome, ladies, to Momstone Have Time to Read Books.

[1:11]I am so excited to be joined here today by Amy Solomon, the editor of Notes From the Bathroom

[1:16]Line, as well as two of the contributors, Lennon Parham, and also Lake Bell.

[1:21]So welcome to all of you.

[1:22]Thanks for coming on the show.

[1:24]Thank you for having us.

[1:28]So if you wouldn't mind, maybe you could go around and Amy, why don't you start,

[1:31]since this was your Gilda Radner inspired, you know, enterprise and talk about how it started

[1:37]and how you roped in these ladies here?

[1:39]Yeah, so basically there is this book from 1976 called Titters.

[1:44]That's this amazing bonkers book of 200 pages of all sorts of humor writing by all of my icons

[1:51]and commies. So Gilda and Lorraine Newman and Phyllis Diller and Candice Bergen.

[1:56]And I discovered it on eBay when I was little and was obsessed with Gilda Radner.

[2:01]I still am by a big-time big-time and I got obsessed.

[2:05]And it basically was always bizarre to me that there wasn't another big collection of humor

[2:10]writing by women, especially because the community is only exploded even more.

[2:15]And I've gotten, you know, produced TV and movies and all I do all day is meet brilliant women.

[2:20]So it was like, let's get them all to write something.

[2:23]So Lennon and Lake are two of my all-time faves.

[2:27]And so basically I went through, you know, I asked friends, who are your favorite people?

[2:33]I went through people's age and you know, I just did a huge evil web of trying to rope women in.

[2:38]And yeah, I was so lucky these girls agreed that it's an honor. They're in it.

[2:42]It's amazing. Very exciting.

[2:44]Thank you. Just like talking now that you hear my voice.

[2:50]Lennon do your voice so they know you're you.

[2:53]Do I sound just like you, Lake?

[2:55]I think we sound exactly the same.

[2:56]No.

[2:57]We sound exactly alike.

[2:58]So I'm Lennon and we have, we both have deep, sultry,

[3:03]Kathleen Turner voices. Don't get turned on.

[3:08]I love this idea.

[3:09]I mean, Amy came to me initially.

[3:12]And I was just like, oh, this is a genius idea.

[3:15]And also you're right.

[3:16]I think there should be a volume of it sort of every couple of years, frankly.

[3:21]So this is let's call it volume one.

[3:22]Can we do that? Can we announce that?

[3:25]Sure, but I want to break.

[3:29]No, but what it's it's tremendously entertaining.

[3:31]It's also very bite size.

[3:33]It's, you know, it's the perfect thing to ingest in a time where we're feeling like we are

[3:38]deprived of community because it is so kind of communal and playful and inclusive.

[3:47]And I just like, I sort of poured over it and felt like I was hanging out with all of my,

[3:54]you know, my wish list of dearest friends and some people like, let me do who we are.

[3:59]Who we are friends.

[4:00]Dear dear friends.

[4:02]Yeah.

[4:02]Amy sent me the sweetest email.

[4:05]And honestly, if anybody sends me a personal email, I'm like, yes, what, what, you know,

[4:11]who I am watch out, watch out, I know, I know, but it was very sweet.

[4:18]And I love the idea.

[4:19]And also the, the sort of take on it, the, like, when you, when you take people through,

[4:25]like, what the essays or like, I wrote a poem that is an ode to Tar J target, which is very deeply

[4:32]personal to me and can I say that's up through the pandemic, like I think the openness,

[4:37]the creativity, the option to sort of personalize it.

[4:41]And some of the titles are like so amazing and I can't wait to dive in.

[4:45]Yeah, you have to people need to listen to the audiobook to listen to Lennon read her ode

[4:49]to Tar J because it is unbelievable, very deeply felt.

[4:53]I'm no Amanda Gorman, you know what I mean?

[4:55]Like I'm not, yeah, but poetry is important.

[4:58]Everyone should know.

[4:59]And, and might just piggyback, my contribution is a cartoon.

[5:03]So the other, the other sort of like a comic, but that, that's the other part of this,

[5:09]which is like it's multi, and that's why I think it's very digestible and kind of,

[5:13]the perfect kind of snack to your creative and cultural list of things to do and ingest,

[5:22]because it really does sort of satiate that, you know, multifaceted, very uber-creative,

[5:30]layered way of expression, which is I think how most kind of, you know,

[5:34]certainly comedic and creative brains think, which is in terms of drawings and doodles,

[5:40]which I did and the written word and the poems and the songs.

[5:43]I mean, there's literally like a, a full lot, less song in there with, you know,

[5:48]complete with notes and notes. You can tell I'm a professional musician, one of the great,

[5:55]but you know, it's just like, it is truly this archive, this artifact of, of, of who's out there,

[6:03]what ladies are out there doing their thing right now. And, and I think it's quite beautiful.

[6:08]When I got to the song, I was like, all right, I don't even know what to do with this.

[6:11]Should I even attempt to like play this in my head from my rudimentary piano from like,

[6:15]their grade or am I just going to look at these? Yeah. I think he was the song,

[6:19]his watch or perform it on YouTube. So people ask her all that's for that sheet music.

[6:23]So there is a generation of musical theater students that will be thrilled.

[6:27]I'm sure they're well on music.

[6:32]All those notes, actual notes.

[6:36]Wait, I just want to jump in here. One of the other parts that I was obsessed with,

[6:40]the boys who wrote frequently asked questions about the IUD.

[6:43]Oh, yeah, life reverses. Because by the way, I was like, I'm interested.

[6:52]Yeah, these are questions you can't ask you to learn something to one of them.

[6:55]So you get your belly. Yeah.

[6:58]It's true. I feel like from the drawings to the essays, to all the little mini interview

[7:04]questions that you rounded up in like, stackable form, as you were saying, everybody shares a sort

[7:09]of sarcastic type humor. Like everything is so tongue in cheek, as opposed to like, here I am.

[7:15]I'm going to tell like a, this is my funny set. No, it's just like all just so like smart and

[7:21]just like a variation on, on reality, right? Like text you adhere or text you set. Like that was

[7:28]so funny. But then things that didn't even happen. Right. Text you sent by mistake that you

[7:33]sent to the wrong person. Yeah, it's so funny. I mean, all of it is like just, it's, you know, it is

[7:38]like entertainment. It's using the book form to entertain in a new way with visual and

[7:44]colors that are arresting and attention-grabbing. And I feel like, while community is so

[7:49]important right now, so is like being able to focus. Like have you guys had a hard time reading lately

[7:55]or like focusing? I feel like there's so much going on that it can be hard. This book is sort of

[7:59]the antidote to that. I mean, I think like I was thinking your, your podcast, you know, moms don't

[8:06]have time to read book. I'm like, this one is fine. I'm a mom. Like let us, this one, you're going to be

[8:11]fine. You know? It's like I make a great gift too. Like I feel like I would, you could buy it in bulk

[8:18]everyone, everyone buy it in bulk. And then just send it to like your best girlfriends and we're like,

[8:23]I just knew you needed this right now or like all of those boxes, you know, we're getting like

[8:27]all those ads for like happy box, etc. Like it's a perfect thing like that just to say I was thinking

[8:33]of you. Here it is from my local bookstore. And, you know, the independent bookseller on the corner

[8:39]and wrap it up. Love it. You could even do, you could do a box with some toilet papers and then you

[8:43]could, you know, you could do the bathroom time. Like keep it going, right? I don't know.

[8:47]Yeah. And just like from your female owned independent, yes, book shop down the block.

[8:55]Yeah. There was another one. Like here's just to, to, to wet the palette and tease the

[9:00]innards of the book is there's one like a line for my obituary, right? That's one of my

[9:07]other favorites, which is really entertaining to read. One of them was like, she was my favorite

[9:12]inmate, you know, or yeah. There was one about the ex-boyfriend too. There was so funny when

[9:18]she meets him on the street. And she's like running, but carrying groceries with her perfect new

[9:23]husband. And she's like, Oh, no name. I don't even remember you. That's me. That's me.

[9:28]Yeah. That's her. Yes. It's like a script of running into ex-boyfriend. So fun.

[9:32]And let in your poem, when I read it at first, I just kind of read Ode, but then I like didn't

[9:36]read the title carefully. And I started reading it. And I was like, Oh, I wonder where she is.

[9:40]Like, I want it. And he's like, I was a cost cover. Like, where is she? And then I was like,

[9:45]oh, I'm such a moron. She's a target. Like, duh. Okay. I do believe that Joanna Gaines has the answers.

[9:53]Like, she's figured it out. How many children does she have? And it's just all like farmhouse.

[10:00]shake and from head to toe. She's always got on the right boot. Her husband is annoying and wonderful like it's just she's got it figured out like everyone needs a windmill don't we all need a windmill you don't know.

[10:14]I love it. It's the most delicious pizza you've ever had in your life that sure Joanna has something you could use for the pizza but she's got all sorts of stuff. She definitely has a pizza stone a crafted curated pizza stone.

[10:42]Listen I respect it but the other thing there's a lot of different kinds of moms out there okay and I think that there's a lot of different kind of proclivities and I have to say this scratches all the inches this book because in my doodle for instance like I was kind of like funny but you know just observational stuff and then like upside down really teeny tiny writing.

[11:03]To say that my daughter has epilepsy and that's not a joke and I just say that Gary and so there are there's the full range of you know little tidbits that feel incredibly real and and earnest but then also the majority I was like 98.9% of it is just hilarious.

[11:25]Yeah I think there were a lot of really real moments in it which that are really beautiful there's this girl Carolina Barlow who's a brilliant gal. She wrote a piece of all of her fantasies about men throughout her life and chronological order and she used to have this fantasy about getting in an accident and all of these different

[11:43]biases come to her bedside and then she ultimately does get in an accident and these about men actually come in her bedside it's so beautiful.

[11:51]People would send these pieces in and I would be like driving home and I would pull over and it was like the most exciting thing to read them and you know their poems and comics and all sort it's just it's so fun.

[12:02]I'm sad it's done honestly.

[12:05]Like I read on Instagram when you shared about your daughter having epilepsy and how you wrote that you weren't sure for a while if you were going to share it or not and you decided that in this time of community it was good to come forward can you tell me about your decision to share.

[12:19]I think you know not to somewhere from when I was talking about a book like this where there you know community is I think I do what I do and I enjoy my job so much because it is based around the sort of ethos of community right like group up a bunch of people who have of like mind and create something that didn't exist before.

[12:43]And so when it came to my daughter Nova's epilepsy I felt very isolated happened during the pandemic.

[12:50]She had had seizures before but she had never it had never sort of been escalated to the stamp of she has epilepsy and she she has a genetic mutation that causes it which we know.

[13:03]So yeah I think that I really wanted to I felt really alone in it you know and so being it's just scary just is you know it's like you don't have the answers you traditionally you would have these opportunities to be with other parents maybe go to a support group maybe go to a coffee with the epilepsy foundation or you know and and start to to kind of have someone to text in the middle of something.

[13:31]like hey did you find this and is this medication working for you know it's like you don't really have that in this time and I respect that we have to be isolated and and be with citizens in this pandemic but it was it was it was hard and so I think I thought well if it's hard for me then it's hard for others and as opposed to I was looking for I was looking for sport and I did I got a lot of sport I got it was really just therapeutic to have other moms and dads you know just people.

[14:01]cousins sisters brothers whatever's grandparents who have you know a loved one with epilepsy and then seeing other sorry rarely but then there was other women who were like young women and older women you know who are married now with kids and the whole thing and they're like I have epilepsy and I have an amazing life.

[14:20]and not okay if you know if it's going to be okay and I'm happy to say we're we're six months seizure for you right now so amazing yeah so so you know I'm going to knock on all the wood this is it you're at a fully.

[14:36]but no yeah so I do feel that you know I just it's almost like scary to say you're seeing your great you know I mean because you just don't yeah she's doing great and they feel very great.

[14:48]well I'm sure you connected with the bazillion people but one of my best friends her son also has epilepsy and she's like funny and amazing and awesome so if you need another really.

[14:58]I'm happy to connect you guys because she also didn't know anybody when she was going through it and and if you're not on Instagram or you know you really have to kind of put it out there about not just.

[15:07]one thing your child has but basically everything we're all going through and I think now there's so much we all have in all these different ways loss or divorce or kids illnesses or just stress with your kids or whatever it is or work stuff or.

[15:21]anything and you know before you're confined to the people in your physical orbit a lot more and now it's like everything is sort of all the doors have been blown off right like everything you get has to be.

[15:33]in this massive social media world or else you have to be only with the people you know does that make any sense Jamie like what you put it on social media it's like oh this woman in Nigeria has the same thing with her daughter as I'm going through right now.

[15:47]if I hadn't just like sat on my phone and typed like two lines I never would have known that and I would have been feeling like oh my god I'm the worst mom ever but now.

[15:55]I'm the second worst or something you know so.

[16:01]The only time I meet people is the dog park I basically go in like a thousand masks and just stand in the corner and let my dogs like live their life because they don't need wear masks.

[16:12]And now I'm just like so connected to the dog community in a way that I never realized I might be but yeah it's just yeah you're I feel like it's taught us the ways that if you open up you can find those people you know.

[16:28]I mean I think you know our children to our suffering so much you know in a way that they can articulate and I think you know it's so crazy that social media has become some tremendous resource to figure out how to talk about a complex issues like that injustice and you know.

[16:48]You know it's like you can't just rely on for instance like oh okay they're going to go to school and they're going to talk about that because not everybody's able to go to school in the same way so already there you don't have the infrastructure of like.

[16:59]A staff of amazing educators which you know kind of traverse some of this complicated territory like oh what does it feel like to feel so.

[17:08]to feel full of anxiety like I feel like anxiety is something that our kids are all like I don't like what is this new blanket that's on top of everything that I do.

[17:20]Totally there's an Instagram account called seed and so which I follow and they were talking recently about patients versus like boundary parenting so it's sort of like.

[17:33]you're cooking dinner and your toddler hits your leg and you're like you just kind of keep cooking dinner and they hit your leg again and you keep cooking dinner and you ignore it and then the third time you explode and I was like okay this is.

[17:48]Like I felt like I felt like they had like snuck a camera into my kitchen and watch me deal with my four year old and then the other option is the first time he hits you you like stop cooking dinner.

[18:01]squat down get eye level with him and say like I'm not going to let you hit me seems like you're wanting attention how about as soon as I finish with this.

[18:12]Whatever sauce or cutting the onions stop crying and and we do jumping jacks in the living room or something and and it and the first time I did it and it worked I mean.

[18:24]jumping jacks in the living room he was like what you want to do jumping jacks and we were just like jumping jacks jacking in the middle that's not you can't use that you can't say jumping jacking.

[18:36]Anyway, so that's been a resource for me as I you know as I try to homeschool and parent and to all all the things that I'm like thought I would be great at it I'm not great at you know like a resource that's so funny learning because like this morning.

[18:53]As you get yeah this exact thing he's like upstairs I'm like I'm still sleeping and he's like I'm not upstairs I'm like again my answer close he's like I want to go upstairs and I'm like Aussie.

[19:06]This is not going to work.

[19:09]I love you nice you need to go and put your underwear on and your potty time and then I will take you downstairs he's three now.

[19:18]and he was like yeah okay with that but then maybe now I've perpetuated it I feel I'm making a lot of questions about just my.

[19:26]I feel like every parent does that though I mean who's going to really like throw the spatula and like you know I don't cross like it on the floor and attend the first time.

[19:38]My daughter the other day I she did the same thing like and I have four kids but this is my seven year old.

[19:43]I have twins over 13 and then a seven year old and a six year old anyway my seven year old she was asking me something and I was like wait wait and then or she didn't listen the first two times you know so then third time I'm like stop you know.

[19:55]She's like why would you yell at me I'm like well I'm not really yelling but you didn't listen to me the first two times so what was my what option.

[20:00]So I have, she's like, okay, okay.

[20:01]And then the next time I ask her,

[20:03]she asks me to stop doing something

[20:05]and I like didn't ignore it.

[20:06]And she's like, but now I get to yell at you

[20:08]if you don't do this, like the second time I ask.

[20:11]And I was like, no, no, no, no.

[20:12]You just, you know, I have to turn this around now.

[20:16]Like a grown ass woman, that's okay.

[20:19]But there's the difference.

[20:20]Okay.

[20:23]My daughter and I, my daughter is seven and three quarters

[20:26]she would want me to say.

[20:27]And she, she had this whole,

[20:30]she had a breakdown about what was in fear

[20:33]because the four-year-old was watching wild crats,

[20:36]which is educational television, everyone.

[20:39]It can only sanction, right?

[20:40]Yes.

[20:41]And she was like, it's not fair

[20:44]that I have to do all this like second grade homework.

[20:47]And I was like, you know what's not fair?

[20:50]Is that I have to make sure that everybody has toilet paper,

[20:54]find a small moment in the day to take a brief myself.

[20:56]Make sure that we have something to eat,

[20:58]then clean all those dishes.

[21:00]Well, you get to like parade around

[21:01]and play with your OMG LOL dolls

[21:03]and guess who bought you those?

[21:05]You know what I mean?

[21:05]That's not fair.

[21:06]And she was like, okay.

[21:07]And she, she heard it

[21:09]because I was at the end of whatever rope

[21:11]that particular rope day.

[21:14]When and I hear you, I have it similarly,

[21:17]like when it gets real, like when you get into the,

[21:20]like I'm a person, I literally,

[21:22]I had a thing where they were,

[21:24]just my kids are just fighting, fighting, fighting

[21:26]and like Nova won't allow.

[21:28]She just allows it to get to her

[21:30]and I'm like woman, you know?

[21:32]And it's like, yeah, yeah.

[21:33]It's okay.

[21:34]You can actually physically take your body away

[21:36]from the situation, you know?

[21:38]And then finally I was like, all right,

[21:40]everybody in your room, you know?

[21:41]Cause I was alone there.

[21:43]And you know, like I'm solo mommy now

[21:46]cause you know, like we're divorced and it's fine,

[21:49]but we are.

[21:50]And so it's just, there's two houses.

[21:51]And so I'm like, guys, come on.

[21:53]And then I went upstairs and also like,

[21:55]hey guys, that's crisscross applesauce

[21:57]and have a family meeting about you just, you know?

[22:00]And then that's when I said, look, you know,

[22:02]how like you're a person and you're a person,

[22:04]I'm also a person, I just, like we're,

[22:09]here are three things sitting down and I got,

[22:14]you know how you get frustrated?

[22:15]I got frustrated.

[22:16]That's what that was.

[22:17]And I needed a minute, you know, when you need a minute,

[22:19]I needed a minute.

[22:20]And I just was like, let me level with you.

[22:23]I'm seriously, you guys when I'm here alone.

[22:28]Like sometimes like, I don't know how to tell you guys

[22:31]to get along.

[22:32]You know, it was just the honest appeal.

[22:34]And they were like, yeah, I get it.

[22:36]You know, it's just like a nice moment of raw honesty.

[22:41]And I was like, look, I got a therapy.

[22:42]I'm gonna use it and my kids, you know what I'm saying?

[22:46]Yeah.

[22:47]I think also with divorce, I'm divorced

[22:49]and I've gotten remarried since,

[22:51]but there's this extra layer of guilt, right?

[22:54]So like I'm trying to do my best,

[22:55]but I lose it, but then all of a sudden they're gone.

[22:58]And then you have like two,

[22:59]and I don't know, maybe you don't split custody or whatever,

[23:01]but like every other weekend, it's like quiet.

[23:04]And I have the opportunity to reflect and be like,

[23:06]oh my God, why did I handle it that way?

[23:08]And I do that.

[23:09]And it just makes it all feel worse somehow.

[23:12]But we're so far off from comedy at this point.

[23:14]I'm sorry, we've like me and her here.

[23:16]Hey, right, these are like, I mean,

[23:18]I hopefully moms are going, yeah, that's, yeah.

[23:21]Exactly, yeah.

[23:22]Yeah, absolutely.

[23:23]But funny.

[23:24]Yeah.

[23:26]No, I didn't think the four of us.

[23:29]We guys just, all of us, after this,

[23:31]we're gonna go do some jumping jacking on ourselves.

[23:33]Nothing.

[23:34]Yeah.

[23:35]And first I jumped jumping jacket.

[23:39]Yeah, jumping jacket.

[23:42]I don't wanna explain it to you like,

[23:44]if you don't.

[23:44]Oh, wow.

[23:45]Like, it's down.

[23:47]We need to show it again.

[23:48]Okay.

[23:49]We are incredibly tight with our friendship.

[23:54]Guys, come up.

[23:55]Yeah.

[23:55]So Amy, do you have visions

[23:58]when everything is back to normal of assembling

[24:01]your amazing crew of all the contributors to your book

[24:04]and some sort of in-person party of sorts or something?

[24:07]Yeah.

[24:08]Oh, can I say the dream to that thing to dream?

[24:12]I mean, I feel like the times when the book was so hard

[24:15]and 40 billion emails and tracking people down,

[24:18]it was like someday we'll have a party

[24:19]and then of course, no, but we will someday.

[24:24]We will, we will.

[24:24]No, I like, I was a huge fan of every woman in this book

[24:28]when I asked them, that's why I asked them

[24:30]and I've only become bigger fans,

[24:32]so I would love to.

[24:33]That would be the dream.

[24:34]Amazing.

[24:35]You could even turn it into some sort of special.

[24:37]Yeah.

[24:37]Okay.

[24:38]Of course, you're very Hollywood to say that.

[24:41]No, but yeah.

[24:43]Everyone's always like, okay, well, how are you gonna adapt it?

[24:45]It's like, some things can stay how they are.

[24:48]No, I mean, not just no, no, I don't.

[24:50]Great way it is.

[24:52]I like, I find I make more time for books

[24:54]and stuff on TV these days anyway

[24:56]because they're like there and you don't turn anything on.

[24:58]I don't know.

[24:58]It's great.

[24:59]No, no, no, no, I'm just kidding.

[25:01]It's just funny.

[25:04]Well, what else is coming next for all of you individually?

[25:06]Like, what's your, what's next on the horizon for all of you?

[25:10]I don't know, guys, you don't know.

[25:12]I, there's a looking for dinner.

[25:16]There's a lot.

[25:16]The other day my boyfriend at eight 45 AM goes,

[25:19]what's for dinner?

[25:20]I was like, you gotta calm down.

[25:23]Yeah.

[25:24]Time for him to make dinner.

[25:25]Yeah.

[25:25]Yes.

[25:26]When he does a very, very hard job, I talk about this a lot,

[25:30]but I this one day went on a podcast and talked about,

[25:34]they were talking about, it was about writing

[25:36]and like, what are your writing tips?

[25:37]Like for women writers, blah, blah.

[25:39]And the only thing I could think of was that like,

[25:41]I love having a fun pen.

[25:43]Like I think that that makes writing so much more exciting

[25:46]if you have a pen you're really excited about.

[25:48]And I went home and I told my boyfriend about,

[25:50]that's like what I talked about, like showing us your pants.

[25:54]I told him, I was like, I said the dumbest thing today.

[25:57]And he was like, today he works at this amazing nonprofit.

[26:00]And he was like, today I did a long interview with a man

[26:02]who was wrongfully incarcerated at age 16.

[26:06]And has finally just been let out of prison

[26:08]and has been paroled to this rehab.

[26:10]And it's just like, this is what he does all day.

[26:12]And I was like, I said, I still could think about a pen.

[26:15]It's just this hard to compare.

[26:17]You need to cook in bed.

[26:18]Yeah, I do need to come to bed.

[26:20]By the way, yes.

[26:22]But yeah, I wonder he was so angry by the end.

[26:24]Well, but someday, well, technically what's next

[26:26]is we will shoot Barry season three some day

[26:29]when people are vaccinated and it's a little safer.

[26:32]And we don't get Henry Winkler sick,

[26:33]which would be the worst that you could do.

[26:36]Yeah, it works.

[26:37]So yeah, that's me.

[26:37]Go Lake.

[26:39]I, yeah, yeah, I just finished.

[26:42]I'm setting up my third feature.

[26:44]So my third original feature that I wrote and the correct.

[26:47]And I'm super excited about that.

[26:49]I have another feature that I'm setting up as well concurrently.

[26:52]And then I have a couple of TV shows that I am developing

[26:55]in my 20th deal that we've been here.

[26:58]Has a fancy pretty fancy lady wearing a next scarf.

[27:04]You are.

[27:05]And pupsley.

[27:06]Yeah, and pupsley.

[27:07]But yeah, that that and my children's book.

[27:10]Oh, which is the, which is really fun too.

[27:13]So just, you just kind of like dipping in a lot of things

[27:16]right now.

[27:17]And a lot of feltment.

[27:18]It's awesome.

[27:19]It's over.

[27:20]I have a children's book coming out with Pangled Random House

[27:23]in the year for now, basically.

[27:24]Amazing.

[27:25]I mean, congratulations.

[27:27]I know.

[27:27]I'm like, well, you know, because you're at home

[27:28]and you're like, OK, yes.

[27:30]My son, children, I would like to be reading

[27:31]to the kitchen.

[27:32]Yeah, it's like, alright enough.

[27:35]Let's do it another way.

[27:37]And what about you, Lennon?

[27:38]What do you have to do next?

[27:39]Just nothing.

[27:40]It's got nothing.

[27:41]I really do.

[27:43]I am just waiting for everybody to get the vaccine.

[27:46]And then I will be out and about back at times.

[27:50]LAUGHTER

[27:52]No, I mean, I, yeah, I shot a pilot into somewhere.

[27:55]We're waiting to hear about that.

[27:57]It's for HBO Max called Make Switches.

[28:00]It's great.

[28:01]It's a period piece set in the 70s about like the first

[28:04]play girl, basically, starring

[28:07]Ophelia Leva Bonn and Jake Johnson.

[28:09]And I play her sister, a housewife.

[28:12]We're the clothes amazing.

[28:13]The clothes were amazing.

[28:15]You know, Beth, who actually did costumes for playing house

[28:18]season one and glow did the costumes.

[28:21]So of course, she's just like amazing.

[28:24]Yeah.

[28:24]And then I'm going to do my silly podcast, Wamp it Up,

[28:28]which is two insane characters for hopefully do some more of that.

[28:32]And then writing, writing, we're writing.

[28:35]It's awesome.

[28:36]So yeah, this is so neat.

[28:38]It's like super inspiring to get to hear what you all are up

[28:41]to and how no matter what everybody is sort of going through

[28:45]the same stuff, right?

[28:46]Like everybody out there is like dealing with a kid, trying

[28:50]to get them to stop cooking or I'm not even

[28:51]doing the cooking like much.

[28:52]Yeah.

[28:53]Or debating who's doing the cooking for dinner,

[28:56]you or your husband or whatever.

[28:57]So anyway, the book comes at the perfect time

[29:00]and is such an entertaining vehicle for distraction

[29:04]and laughter and what we all need right now.

[29:07]So Amy, the 500,000 emails totally worth it.

[29:11]And like, I'm letting it was so nice to meet you

[29:13]and loved your contributions too.

[29:15]So thank you so much.

[29:16]And I'm with the book, so exciting.

[29:18]Thank you.

[29:20]Thanks, baby.

[29:21]Thanks, ladies.

[29:22]Have a great day.

[29:22]Hey.

[29:23]All right.

[29:24]OK, bye.

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