Rachelle Unreich, A BRILLIANT LIFE: My Mother's Inspiring True Story of Surviving the Holocaust
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[0:33]Today's episode is about a brilliant life.
[0:36]My mother's inspiring true story of surviving the Holocaust by Rochelle Unreig.
[0:41]Rochelle has been a journalist for almost 38 years, writing for publications,
[0:44]including Harper's Bazaar, Elle, and Rolling Stone.
[0:47]She lives in Melbourne, Australia, but spent seven years in the US,
[0:50]completing her law degree at UCLA.
[0:52]A brilliant life was the subject of an eight-imprint auction in Australia,
[0:56]and is now published in the US Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK, and South Africa.
[1:01]It is her first book.
[1:03]Welcome, Rochelle.
[1:04]Thank you so much for coming.
[1:05]On mom's don't have time to read books to discuss your absolutely beautiful, heartbreaking,
[1:10]inspiring, all of it, amazing book, A Brilliant Life,
[1:14]about my mother's inspiring story of surviving the Holocaust.
[1:17]Thank you.
[1:17]Thank you so much for having me.
[1:19]I'm really excited.
[1:20]I must say you have quite a fan club.
[1:22]I feel like so many people, we haven't come and have reached out to say,
[1:25]oh yeah, I'm so glad you're having her when I posted the picture, and lots of love and support
[1:30]from you in the community already, so that's wonderful.
[1:33]And all the way from Australia, which is where I am.
[1:35]I know.
[1:36]Crazy.
[1:36]And you know Jane Green too.
[1:38]Right, she was one of your.
[1:39]I do, yeah.
[1:40]Yeah, through because I met her now-husband when I was working at FAO Schwartz
[1:46]as a student at university many moons ago in the 80s.
[1:51]The world is a crazy place, which of course is one of the themes of the book,
[1:56]all these coincidences and reasons, things happen perhaps and perhaps not and all that.
[2:02]All right, well why don't you tell listeners a little bit about the backdrop of the book
[2:06]and how you started interviewing Mira, you're like just tell the whole thing.
[2:11]So I started interviewing my mother six months before she passed away in 2016,
[2:18]was when I did the interviews.
[2:20]And even though I'm a journalist, and I didn't interview her to get material for a book,
[2:26]I did it because she was suffering with cancer.
[2:28]I wanted to distract her from her illness.
[2:31]And I knew she'd been a Holocaust survivor.
[2:35]She'd entered the first of four concentration camps when she was just 17 years old,
[2:40]including Auschwitz.
[2:42]And it wasn't so much that I wanted to know what had happened to her because I had some grasp
[2:47]of that.
[2:48]But rather, how did she survive and live with this incredible joy and buoyancy afterwards?
[2:55]She was a really remarkable person.
[2:57]And one of the things she said, which always struck me, was when she was interviewed
[3:03]in a testimony by the Melbourne Holocaust Museum, they asked her at the end of this testimony
[3:09]where she just went through a litany of horrors.
[3:13]So many people around her had been killed.
[3:15]She'd just seen so much brutality.
[3:18]And at the end, they said, is there anything you want to add, anything you've learned?
[3:24]And she said, in the Holocaust, I learned about the goodness of people.
[3:29]And that became the center point of this book, how she had this attitude and what her lessons
[3:37]of faith really meant.
[3:39]Because I thought she had faith in humanity, in the prospect of a better tomorrow,
[3:46]in herself, in the universe.
[3:49]And I wrote this book during another Blake time in COVID.
[3:53]We were stuck in lockdowns in Melbourne, Australia.
[3:56]This was lockdown number six.
[3:58]And I just really felt that she had lessons that were valuable to share, that the way she lived
[4:03]her life could be a template for others.
[4:07]And as you sort of remarked, there was so much in this that wasn't just about the Holocaust.
[4:13]I wanted to do a really accurate historical record of what happened to her.
[4:17]It was really important that I got that right.
[4:20]But I also wanted to talk about how she lived with such creativity, so much independence.
[4:27]And it's really a love letter to her.
[4:29]It's about mothers and daughters and that bond that cannot be broken, even with death.
[4:36]Because I felt so much grief when I was losing her and when she did die.
[4:41]That I just went towards to try to write myself out of that.
[4:47]And along that, as you mentioned, there are all these strange things that happened around her,
[4:53]that I don't really name or identify properly in the book.
[4:57]It's for the readers to decide.
[4:59]But I really deal with concepts of fate and coincidence and luck and serendipity
[5:07]and try to work out how that all fit in with her.
[5:09]Well, I like that because it leaves you feeling quite hopeful.
[5:14]I feel like when you hear stories like the psychic who predicted you were going to get in the
[5:20]accident and then your mom saying that she was convinced you grandparents had saved your life that day.
[5:26]And it makes me feel personally like less anxious about the thought of dying myself,
[5:33]or that all my loved ones who were dying that there is still this huge
[5:37]other piece of it that we just don't understand.
[5:40]And that provides me at least with some comfort.
[5:42]I don't know if it does to you as well.
[5:44]Yeah. And to be honest, I started writing this book, the reason even though it had been
[5:49]percolating in my brain for as long as I'd been a writer, which is decades.
[5:53]The catalyst was that during lockdown, I kept going for a walk with my neighbor Diana.
[5:59]And on the very first day of lockdown, she'd received terrible news.
[6:03]Her husband had been diagnosed with an incurable brain tumour.
[6:07]And she kept wanting on these walks to hear about mirror.
[6:11]And I realized it was partly to realize for her to realize that you could suffer
[6:16]something incredibly beyond challenging, something so difficult and traumatic,
[6:21]that you didn't know if you could get through.
[6:23]But mirror story showed you that you could not just get through, you could actually flourish.
[6:29]And I think she was Catholic. She's Catholic.
[6:32]And there was this idea for her, too, that the world was bigger than something
[6:37]just us here and now. And it felt really comforting for her to, I guess.
[6:42]Do you believe that your grandparents saved you?
[6:45]I know this is such a minor, I mean, not minor.
[6:47]It sounds like a terrific injury for you.
[6:48]But do you believe in that?
[6:50]Because then the psychic said you were supposed to have died that day.
[6:53]Well, I don't know if the psychic was right.
[6:55]But I believe in my grandparents more than a psychic.
[6:59]I looked, there was, when that happened, I was in an accident my mother had had a dream
[7:05]where she knew exactly where the accident had happened.
[7:08]And I don't know how to explain that otherwise.
[7:11]And I'm sure there are other reasons behind that.
[7:14]But to me, I guess, I became, I guess, a person of faith myself,
[7:19]partly because of my mother's stories. And there was this really pivotal one,
[7:24]as you'll know, that happened towards the end of the war,
[7:27]where she, after eight months, she'd been in these series of camps in Plushov,
[7:33]in Auschwitz, Ravan's Brooke, and Neustach Lavie.
[7:38]She was 17 years old when she went in.
[7:41]And by the time at the end of this eight months had passed,
[7:44]she had deteriorated so much, she was so skeletal that she was what they would have called a
[7:51]a muscle man. Yeah, where you describe the sort of the walking dead.
[7:55]And the term also indicates when some of the light has lost to, has been lost to,
[8:01]where she had really depleted, she couldn't stand any longer.
[8:05]She was so worn and so thin that she was only lying in the barracks.
[8:09]She couldn't go to the upper pluts, the daily roll call, and women would stand in her place,
[8:15]trying to call out her name. And she said that every tooth was wobbling in her mouth,
[8:20]and her gums were filled with pus. And she reached the point where she just didn't know
[8:26]what lay ahead of her. She knew that many of her family members had been killed,
[8:31]including her mother. And she believed her mother was in another realm and she wanted to be
[8:36]with her again. So on this one particular night, she went to bed and she prayed.
[8:42]And she prayed to God fervently and asked him, please, take me in my sleep.
[8:49]I'm ready to go. I'm ready to be with my mother again. And that night, she had a really
[8:54]vivid dream. And it didn't her mother, Janja, came to her and started washing her body with a washcloth,
[9:01]with long strokes. And then she had a bowl of soup and she fed her soup spoonful by spoonful.
[9:09]And before the end of the dream, she said to Mira, Mira, I want you to hold on onto your birthday.
[9:16]And on your birthday, I'll come and save you. And when my mother woke up in the morning,
[9:21]surprised because she really thought she might die in the night, she really felt like it was a dream
[9:27]like no other. She really felt like Janja had crossed over to be with her because she felt different.
[9:34]Even her body felt slightly more sustained. She had a tiny bit more strength as if she really
[9:40]had been fed. And so she thought to herself, you know, I made a promise to my mother.
[9:46]My mother asked me to hang on until my birthday. My birthday's four days away. And I'm going to keep
[9:52]that promise. I know that if the end of the four days comes and goes and nothing's happened,
[9:57]if I'm still here, I'll be able to let my-
[10:00]off-go and this time it'll be for good. And on the day of her birthday, her 18th birthday,
[10:07]she was finally liberated. And, you know, I grew up with that story. She told it countless times.
[10:14]I still often feel teary when I tell it. It's, of course, you can explain it as a massive
[10:20]coincidence. But there were so many things like that that happened to her that I just believe
[10:27]in her, I believe in her faith. I believe in the, I believe in the strength of a parent's love
[10:34]for their child. And like he said, I feel hopeful. None of us will be able to prove it. But
[10:41]it's really what guided me. And even, even writing this book, I have to say that I've never written
[10:48]like this in my life. I wrote the first draft in six weeks. And it was impossible to believe
[10:55]anything but the fact that my mother's hand was underneath me because those words flew off the page.
[11:01]And, you know, writing for 37 years that had never happened before.
[11:06]Well, it's almost like you were transcribing, right? Like you have all these stories. And you just had to,
[11:12]it's like a history, not a history because obviously there's two timelines and, you know,
[11:17]there's your own thoughts and everything. But all of the knowledge that you have of what happened
[11:22]with her, even before the war and what her family was like. And all these things and the things
[11:27]that you didn't ever find out, but you imagined. And like, so did you, had you already
[11:33]completed all of that research before the six weeks? Like, did you know some of the answers and
[11:38]details? I had all the transcripts of her interviews and that included her Holocaust testimonies
[11:45]and my interviews with her a whole series before she died where I really did find out not just
[11:50]what her life was like before the war in Czechoslovakia, which you often don't see in Holocaust
[11:56]stories. This from the beginning, her story, this idyllic little village where her family was filled
[12:03]with love and laughter and culture and that really informed her later on. And then I wanted to talk
[12:10]about afterwards the life she led and what she was like as a parent and what she was like to me.
[12:17]But I actually just started writing and using her transcripts. That was how I began. And every time
[12:25]it kind of felt like I needed a switch or thought heavy for the reader, I would change it,
[12:31]I would insert something of myself in there or a story that made sense. And I did that for two
[12:38]reasons. One was I wanted a bit of a break from the linear retelling of my mother's story. But I
[12:45]also wanted to make sure that readers didn't get too desensitized to the horrors because when
[12:50]you read a Holocaust story, there are one thing after the other after the other. And when you get
[12:56]to enough of them, you finally go, I think your brain switches off. And I wanted to make sure that
[13:03]each thing hit the reader fresh because I don't want a romantic retelling of the Holocaust,
[13:09]I want an actual telling of the Holocaust. So it was so important to me to get the facts
[13:15]straight. There's nothing invented in this book. There's no emotion that I made up. There's no
[13:20]conversation. I invented everything that she said came from her mouth in the retelling,
[13:27]all that her parents said. And if I didn't have that, that didn't go in. And after the six weeks
[13:32]when I wrote the first draft, then over the next two years, I went back, I went to all the
[13:38]Holocaust museums and historians and scholars I could think of. I searched for descendants.
[13:44]I went through every archive that I could and got together all the rest of the information,
[13:49]tried to verify every single thing she said so that nobody could one day point a finger and say,
[13:56]that's not true. Oh my gosh. Well, one theme in your book is that at first, no one would believe
[14:05]people who had seen it and came back to report it because it was so horrible. And people had
[14:11]they all believed and reacted, perhaps things could have unfolded differently. And yet, they didn't.
[14:17]I mean, knowing all of this and then sort of applying it to today and what do we believe? What
[14:24]do we hear? How much credence do we give to different stories? All of that? Where do we take all of
[14:32]this? For me, I read it and I'm like, okay, my ears are open. Anything I hear must be true. Where
[14:39]do you take all of this? And some of the, it was just what do we do with all of this now?
[14:45]Well, to me, it really is the idea that history can easily repay. And you see that from the beginning
[14:52]because the Holocaust didn't start with monsters throwing people into pits. It started with
[14:59]stereotypes being perpetuated and hatred being allowed to go unchecked. And people, good people,
[15:07]even not standing up for what was right and what they could see, but going with often the majority
[15:13]instead. And you see that playing out today, you see these stereotypes of Jewish people of and you
[15:20]see a lack of critical thinking, I think that and then I think to me, my mother really emphasized
[15:28]humanity. And so I think that is such a key message in today. It's really important. I think for
[15:34]everyone not to see everyone else's others. We are all humanity. And we all have to remember that
[15:42]and recognize that and not be so quick to put people into one section and label them, I think,
[15:51]to really try and reach an understanding and to lead with not hatred, to lead with what the end goal
[15:58]should be, which should be in the current day. We want eventual peace. We want people to live
[16:06]happy lives. Everyone. All innocent people to live happy fulfilled lives. Well, it's inspiring.
[16:14]As I said, horrifying, there were some images too. And I have read so much as
[16:20]most good Jewish girls do if you don't have any Hebrew school classes. And then my own interest is
[16:25]I've gotten older in college and just all the books that I read. And I've movies and everything.
[16:32]But there was one line in here where you talked about the people, you know, when they were
[16:38]thrown into the pits or the envelopes a lot and they were thrown into these burning pits and
[16:42]covered with dirt and how someone said that the earth would move for days. Oh my gosh, I just can't get
[16:49]out of my head. It's so awful. Yeah, that was something my mother had been told by her cousin
[16:56]because that is how her mother was murdered. And it is, it's those images. My mother herself
[17:03]worked bearing when it came time for the Nazis to try and liquidate the camps. And they were
[17:10]trying to cover up their crimes. They were assuming the bodies and the people like her were
[17:15]covering it back up. And they would find terrible things in those pits left behind. And it's,
[17:21]it is still, and even though I know her story, and even though I knew her, I still cannot completely
[17:27]understand that she had that past and that she managed to live the life she did. But that seemed,
[17:34]you know, in Australia, we had the largest group of Holocaust group emigrate to Australia outside of
[17:39]Israel per capita. So we had an enormous amount of Holocaust survivors. And I only realized when
[17:46]I was writing this book, how many of her click of her friends were survivors. And you just wouldn't
[17:52]have known it. Like my memories are of these kind of gaggle of people coming over in throngs to our
[17:59]house and playing these very exuberant games, games of cards and laughing the women with their
[18:06]big bouffant hairdo's and the men's sons hand. And just so much merriment among them,
[18:13]fabulous to be around. Well, I feel like most, I mean, as you well know, most children of
[18:21]Holocaust survivors in particular grow up with a unique set of traumatic responses and being
[18:30]the keeper of this information and all of that. So have you been in touch with other children of
[18:35]survivors to contrast your experience? And I wonder how, you know, the ripples of all these different
[18:42]family trees and different responses, then affect the Jewish community forever.
[18:48]Yeah. Well, I, in when I lived in Los Angeles, which I did for time, I once went to a meeting
[18:53]which were of people like me, those descendants. And I couldn't quite relate to them because
[19:00]first of all, they were quite with older. My mother had me later in life and she herself was so
[19:04]young as a survivor. So they were a decade, you know, two decades older than me. But they really
[19:10]spoke of parents who were really scared, who were overprotective, who sometimes ordered food,
[19:17]and that's not all survivors, but that those were those survivors and that I didn't relate to.
[19:22]And nor is she a survivor. I've got lots of friends in Australia whose parents refuse,
[19:28]absolutely refuse to speak about what they went through. And can't, if they do, they end up,
[19:33]if they even touch on it, they have nightmares. They're disturbed for weeks and weeks. So the
[19:39]children, of course, don't want to do this to them. And somehow, my mother managed to be able
[19:45]to tell her story quite often whenever she was asked without re-traumatizing herself.
[19:52]So I don't know if I, I often feel like rather than intergenerational trauma, I had intergenerational
[19:58]strength, or if-
[20:00]enjoy but it's funny the other day I did it did occur to me that some of it
[20:05]leads through because I grew up in this really magical kind of house a crumbling
[20:10]Victorian house that was divided into apartments and we lived in
[20:16]in one of those apartments and somebody came through the house recently which we
[20:20]still have and said wow all these rooms here these old rooms you must have
[20:25]as a child like I imagined all these incredible things it must have
[20:29]planted the seeds for a book and I thought the only imagination I had about
[20:33]the house was imagining secret doorways in the floor where I could hide
[20:38]and underground tunnels in case anything went wrong and so I
[20:43]realized how much it was informed by that background
[20:46]but that aside I don't feel like it really penetrated me
[20:52]are you also allergic to hay? I am. Are you? I really am. Yeah I went to
[20:57]some high-value kind of maybe it was a Halloween-y thing once that
[21:00]just had to leave I was sneezing so much with my kids
[21:03]oh my gosh yeah you don't think about that this you know with your mother in
[21:08]the you know being allergic my daughter is allergic to everything and
[21:12]including hay and I was thinking oh my gosh all the sneezing she was trying
[21:16]she was trying to hide and oh my gosh anyway you know it's sort of
[21:20]of remind you my mother's story and any survivor story
[21:23]how much luck? How many good turns were required in order to be saved
[21:29]and that's really true I think of any survivor you survive because you are
[21:32]physically able to you survive probably because you are mentally able to
[21:37]and you survive because so many series of things happened all along the way
[21:41]that saved you and not just one and not just two and not just ten
[21:45]there were one after the other because statistically it was you know you went
[21:49]into camp and you didn't usually come out
[21:53]even just I feel like you really captured the
[21:56]indecision not indecision but it was impossible to know what to do then even at
[22:01]the beginning like with all of the anthem uncles and
[22:04]do we go here do we go there and I could just imagine you know within a family
[22:08]what do you think you know should we report should we hide
[22:11]should well changing their minds you just don't know
[22:15]and it just seems like one decision after another and then there's your whole
[22:19]so what has been the response your book has come out during
[22:23]you know this crazy time in history now
[22:26]how has been for you how has the antisemitism been if at all towards you and the
[22:32]book and you know just what has it been like
[22:35]well in the last few pages of the book I actually right I don't know if I'll
[22:39]ever see hatred like this in my lifetime
[22:42]and then of course by the time the book was actually out there
[22:46]that hatred had happened in Australia it came out three weeks after October the
[22:50]7th and at first I thought I don't know if I can actually even
[22:55]publicize this book because how can we talk about an old horror when there
[22:59]is a fresh horror to deal with every day it felt really hard
[23:04]but I I realized once it was out that people wanted to talk about it
[23:08]and I think they have found hopes through my mother's story which has been
[23:13]incredible that it's been somewhat uplifting for them
[23:18]but it is difficult in Australia it feels really difficult in Melbourne it has
[23:23]felt very difficult and it's hard because my parents came to this country
[23:28]and absolutely loved it from the beginning
[23:31]but I take heart in the fact that I see so many Australians standing up
[23:37]against antisemitism my mother was saved and helped by not just Jewish people
[23:42]but so many non-Jewish people from a Greek Orthodox priest who converted her
[23:48]to a Belgian officer after the war who fed her when she was really
[23:52]malnourished and I look at people around me I see you know strangers posting on
[23:57]LinkedIn I see people in Melbourne's community just speaking up
[24:03]and I think the world has changed since the war time
[24:08]where people are not just sitting there silently they are being vocal
[24:13]I've met with politicians I've met with real community leaders looking
[24:18]to affect change in Australia they've just passed legislation
[24:24]that has helped some of the hate online that people here have been
[24:28]experiencing and so I like to believe that the world has changed somewhat
[24:35]but I see both I can see fear online it seems like a vortex of hate
[24:41]I think that's a little bit of an echo chamber
[24:43]I don't think that's what the world feels like
[24:46]I feel safe in Australia and I do feel ultimately that this is still an incredible
[24:51]place to be a Jewish person
[24:53]how big I know you said a lot of people came over
[24:56]second to Israel but how big is the Jewish community today is it still one of the
[25:00]largest percentages I've never actually looked at that statistic
[25:02]I'm just going to teach you what I'm really terrible with number
[25:07]I don't know what's looking up but now it's a you know
[25:09]it's a really vibrant community here we've got every kind of
[25:12]strata of Judaism from I got a modern Orthodox synagogue
[25:17]but then there are plenty and there are plenty of reforms in a
[25:19]gogs and plenty of ultra Orthodox synagogues
[25:23]I'm going to say I'm scared to say a number because no no I don't even
[25:26]I was just curious okay well what advice do you have for aspiring authors
[25:32]well mine is a real second chance story because I started writing this at
[25:36]55 I published this at 57 and when I wrote it
[25:41]I had really told myself for years as much as I wanted to write it
[25:45]I wasn't sure I could write a book and I tried
[25:49]I was reading what other people do they plan their books
[25:52]I tried to plan it that was terrible I tried to do the kind of
[25:56]Stephen King mode of writing a certain amount every day that didn't really work
[26:01]for me but what I realized was I shouldn't have underestimated myself
[26:07]because I thought that my manuscript if I ever wrote one would end up
[26:11]in a dusty drawer and never see the light of day
[26:14]but in fact within three weeks of writing it I
[26:17]I got an agent that was through a bit of serendipity as well
[26:21]because I looked on LinkedIn and thought maybe I'm already friends with an agent
[26:24]and I was and she was born on my mother's birthday no less
[26:29]and then it ended up being part of an eight imprint auction in Australia
[26:33]being sold it got bought by Harper Collins in a pre-empt in America and Canada
[26:38]it's sold in the UK to back back in my publishing it's in South Africa with
[26:43]Pam McMillan to about to have its first European
[26:47]translation in Europe so it's funny because I went to one of those
[26:52]publishers and he said why haven't you written a book before now
[26:55]and I said I didn't think I could and he said who told you that
[26:59]and I thought and I said well I told me that
[27:03]and that was really a thing I think I took on board when I was younger
[27:07]anyone who said something critical about my more creative writing
[27:12]I took it on board and just felt like I was okay in a safe place of journalism
[27:19]and it really wasn't until I got quite desperate in COVID
[27:22]where the world was closing up and articles were closing up
[27:25]that I almost felt that I had no choice that this was the time
[27:30]but I just plowed through like it really is
[27:33]putting it on the page and just you know doing one thing after the other
[27:38]just don't second guess yourself I think
[27:40]well I don't believe you're the age that you say you are
[27:43]you look impossibly young not just look seem feel
[27:47]speak I don't know you have this very useful
[27:51]exuberance to you so maybe that's that's the part of your mom you know
[27:54]that very helpful yeah she was in hardcore she you know it was nearly
[27:58]9-2 and she passed away and Bailey a wrinkle on her face
[28:01]I've got to say wow she was young in her she was always
[28:05]cracking a dryer core I still really missed my
[28:08]dally fine calls with her call her on the way to school drop off
[28:12]and she would answer the phone as if I've just been in and
[28:15]Taftukha for six months in communicado and she'd say
[28:19]hello my darling daughter Rafi how are you today
[28:25]yes she was always one should always be graded like that in life I tell you
[28:29]it's like my puppy dog
[28:33]I get unfettered joy at seeing you oh that's so
[28:37]wonderful well that is a good way to live and to treat other people and
[28:41]there that's just one of the eight million lessons
[28:43]in this book about the history of eight million plus
[28:48]people that went so awry and is so unspeakably tragic and
[28:53]yet you shined a new light on it and told it in a different way
[28:56]and have inspired so much hope and connection and
[29:01]it's a book that I think was meant to come out right when it did
[29:05]and will be a bomb for so many people I'm really appreciate that I mean it was
[29:11]I mean you're part of this whole dream of me manifesting because I was
[29:15]really hoping to speak to you and so I feel my publisher always says to me
[29:20]when I get worried she says just believe in the magic of Mira
[29:24]and I have to say I kind of do I think that should be on a t-shirt
[29:29]yeah leaving in the patch magic of Mira well thank you thank you for
[29:33]sharing Mira with the rest of us thank you so much to be
[29:35]okay bye Rachel I thanks for listening to this episode of
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[29:58]and thank you to morning moon production
[30:00]for providing this fantastic intro and outro music.