Mega-Celebrity!! Tiffany Haddish, I CURSE YOU WITH JOY
[0:02]Hi, I'm Zippy Owens, and I am the host of this podcast, Mom's Don't Have Time to Read Books.
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[0:25]at Zippy Owens, or join the community at ZippyReaders. Tiffany Haddish is the author of
[0:33]I Curse You with Joy. Tiffany is a dynamic American actress, comedian, and author,
[0:38]known for her infectious energy and hilarious performances. Born in Los Angeles, California,
[0:43]Haddish's journey to success has been marked by resilience and determination.
[0:48]Growing up in foster care, she found solace and comedy and quickly made a name for herself
[0:52]in the stand-up comedy scene with her unique blend of wit and relatability. Her breakthrough came
[0:57]in 2017 with the hit comedy film Girls Trip, where she earned critical acclaim for her portrayal
[1:03]of the vivacious and outspoken Dina. Since then, Haddish has appeared in numerous films
[1:08]and television shows, showcasing her versatility as an actress and her ability to effortlessly blend
[1:13]comedy with heartfelt moments. In addition to her acting career, Haddish is an accomplished author
[1:19]with her memoir The Last Black Unicorn, becoming a New York Times bestseller in 2017.
[1:24]Through her candid storytelling, she inspires readers to embrace their uniqueness
[1:28]and overcome life's obstacles with resilience and humor. With her undeniable talent,
[1:33]infectious laughter, and commitment to authenticity, Tiffany Haddish continues to make her mark
[1:38]in the entertainment industry and inspire others along the way. Welcome, Tiffany. Thank you so
[1:44]much for coming on mom's don't have time to read books to discuss. I curse you with joy. Welcome.
[1:49]Thank you. Thank you. I have to say when I told my nine-year-old son that we were doing this interview,
[1:54]he literally spit out his rice crispies and was like, Tiffany Haddish? And I was like,
[1:58]you never know. I'm not letting him read this book. This book is not for kids.
[2:04]I know. I was like, yeah, we're not going to go there. Oh my gosh. Okay, Tiffany, you are so
[2:12]real, so funny. So out there, oh my gosh, I was like blushing and laughing and I don't even know.
[2:20]Tell listeners what they can expect with this book. They can expect some laughs. They can expect
[2:25]some tears. They can expect some wet. They can expect some wet. You can put this in a book. I don't
[2:32]even know you write that down on paper. They can expect a full-on roller coaster. I like to say
[2:40]the ups and downs of life. Oh my gosh. It's basically because they say you're supposed to write
[2:45]about what you know about. So when do I know about it? I know about my life. It's all I write about
[2:49]my life. I was explaining your book to my husband. I was like, I basically know everything about
[2:55]her private parts now. Like, I've never heard so much about someone else's. And you still don't know
[3:01]nothing about my private parts. I know you want me. I know. You know everything, but no nothing.
[3:07]Exactly. No. Anything you wanted to share. So of course there's a mix of all this, you know,
[3:13]hooking up and nobody calls the hooking up anymore. I'm from, you know, I'm born in the
[3:17]life of the news. Okay. Okay, fine. Thank you. So there's lots of that. But it's mixed in with
[3:25]your family history and really deep feelings of rejection from your dad who was Jewish by the way.
[3:32]And I loved your black mitzvah. Oh my gosh. I mean, even it's so funny. You're so funny.
[3:38]You're like, it's really hard to be written, but you said to like, thing from the hood where I
[3:44]could count, but I couldn't read or something. I'm not doing this justice, but you're so funny. Anyway,
[3:48]talk about your relationship with your dad and how that has infected things in your life,
[3:54]if you don't mind. Let's just jump in. Well, let's jump in girl. First, I didn't have one.
[3:58]I mean, I had a relationship. So I was like three in I barely can remember. I don't remember much
[4:04]never let's ship it. I remember on that. Then he was gone. And so then there was no male, there's
[4:09]no male role model, no nothing. So there's me figuring stuff out. But I still had this longing to be
[4:16]near my dad with my dad. Like I still love my dad. I know that I had a dad and I didn't have
[4:23]him. And then then when we reconnected, it was like, you know, man, I had this man been around
[4:30]maybe life would have been different. Maybe out of them better, but maybe he wasn't supposed to be
[4:37]around because I wouldn't be who I am today. Right? So like I made a lot of mistakes with it with,
[4:43]you know, dating men. I gallowed down to the round if he went,
[4:47]you know, how activity if you will. I was looking for that daddy. I was looking for this thing
[4:55]that, you know, and I was also like in the throes of like thinking, I don't know, I thought I guess
[5:01]I thought I was getting my power back. I don't know. You know, there's one chapter that's
[5:05]supposed to be in the book that probably would make sense on why I was like really makes sense
[5:10]on why I was doing what I was doing. But I felt like it was just too, it was too much.
[5:15]Oh, wait. I want to hear what's in that chapter. Great. Oh, Tiffany. And after like, it was too heavy.
[5:22]I was like, this is too dark. There's nothing funny about this at all. There's no way for me to make
[5:27]this even slightly funny. So we don't like that chapter. We'll say that for like a special like drop that
[5:37]where somebody just I bet what they call that where people just drop something like a
[5:42]a Randall chapter or something. I don't know. But it's too dark. And then I was like, you know how
[5:49]they say, okay, the therapist tells you like write down your feelings and kind of ill about this.
[5:56]If you're stressing out right about it. So wrote about it. And yeah, you know, I was like,
[6:05]I thought I would be, I would add it because I know I'm not the only female that's gone through it.
[6:09]You know, I feel like this is like my homage of like, hey, we've been through things.
[6:14]You're not the only one just because I'm popular or whatever. It doesn't mean that my shit ain't
[6:19]fucked up to. It was, it was so dark. I was like, not to be bragging, but really good at describing
[6:27]things and making feel like you there. Yes, you are. So then I'm like, yeah, I don't want to put
[6:32]people there. I don't want to do that. Especially if a, if another woman is gone through this,
[6:38]if she's remissed probably like, all the years, therapy, but like taking back, I don't know.
[6:44]Well, maybe it's too much for the book. Maybe it's too much for the book, like individually,
[6:49]like say, essay that's just dropped. Yeah. Like maybe do that. Can you tell me more about what
[6:57]happened? Yes, you could read. Um, I did it interview. I believe it was the million students,
[7:02]magazine. Okay. I'll read it. I talked about it a little bit. But yeah, I mean, and you can see it
[7:08]like that people talk about it a little bit online, but yeah, I was right by police today,
[7:13]at least that's what he told me was. And, um, yeah, handcuffs, all the stuff. No. No. No, because I can't
[7:23]be funny. It doesn't have to be funny, but it do have to be funny because I am the
[7:31]administrator of joy. Yeah. That's my job is to deliver something. Maybe it's a little hard
[7:38]to digest. And then at some point, find the funny, but it is, I believe, the catalyst to
[7:44]would lead to my promiscuity. They try to get it by trying to get back what was taken from me,
[7:50]or trying to take back the power that was taken from. I also tried to get, yeah, I was, I was,
[7:58]yeah. But then I didn't feel anything. You know, you get the, the go on a therapy. Yeah.
[8:04]And that they give me drugs. Oh, that was before the prosack. And yeah. Yeah. And then I didn't
[8:10]feel nothing. But when you have a sex, you feel something. And I'm necessarily good.
[8:16]But there's something there. And then I could take maybe take back. I'm taking, I thought,
[8:22]but I went for it. I was done. You know, 20s, you stupid, stupid as hell. It's not stupid.
[8:31]You were, there was a reason for it. You were trying to heal yourself in some way. That was your way.
[8:36]I'm kind of way. Yeah. And then I'm also looking for somebody to nurture me and be there for me.
[8:42]It's a male counterpart, if you will. Yeah. Yeah. And I ain't had nobody to do that. And then
[8:50]it's crazy. Because then I meet my dad. And now I'm like, I'm getting married. I'm doing it. I'm
[8:55]doing it. Like, yeah. All these good things are happening. And then my dad is teaching me about
[9:00]my heritage. And we are. You know, he's over there riddled with guilt because also he's expecting me.
[9:08]He's like, you know, your American girl. Where's my grand baby? Because most American girls that
[9:14]don't grow up with their father to have a baby by the time it's 20. 20 somewhere in there.
[9:20]Like, where's my babies? Where's my grand baby? They can hear you give a second chance. You know,
[9:25]I guess to raise somebody. But no, I don't have that for you. Sorry with these things.
[9:31]You know, the expectation that you have to bring the joy, that's a lot to bear. Like,
[9:37]you can have the feelings too. No, you don't have to be the entertainer nonstop. I think people
[9:44]laugh more route for you more when they hear all this stuff. That's I mean, I think that's why you
[9:49]include some of it. But you know, I mean, no, I, I include it. No, no, no. It's easy in order to bring joy.
[9:56]I think you have to understand the opposite.
[10:00]I did that, right?
[10:01]And that's how you appreciate the joy.
[10:03]I know I don't have to bring the joy all the time.
[10:06]And I don't, but if you go spend more than two hours with me,
[10:12]are you gonna get some?
[10:14]You know this, because I'd be damned
[10:17]if I'm gonna be bored and devastated for two hours or more.
[10:21]I gotta find, I try to find the fun and the joy and everything
[10:25]even in this book.
[10:26]Like even when I'm talking about the dark stuff,
[10:28]it's like, I gotta find the funny in it.
[10:31]Otherwise, I'd be like Eeyore out of Winnie the Pooh,
[10:34]which I know that the people that bored in the 2000s probably
[10:37]don't know who I'm talking about, but those of us
[10:40]from the 1900s who was the sad ass, gray donkey,
[10:46]who wants to be the sad donkey, nobody.
[10:49]Like I want to, I want to bring joy.
[10:53]And I feel like all these good and bad experiences
[10:58]that come about are to make you stronger.
[11:02]And the bad ones really are to make you appreciate the joy.
[11:07]Yeah.
[11:08]I think some of the saddest people laugh the hardest.
[11:11]My experience.
[11:12]And laughter is the same.
[11:14]I've used the same muscles to cry.
[11:16]You said laughter's a way better.
[11:19]It's very true.
[11:20]Oh my gosh.
[11:22]I mean, when you shared all the parts about growing up
[11:26]and your mom and her accident and even how you give a PS
[11:30]when people are asking, like, how is your mom today?
[11:33]And how you're still there and the moment
[11:37]where she was sort of heavily medicated.
[11:41]And oh my gosh.
[11:42]I mean, you go through all this stuff.
[11:45]And then you go through periods of time
[11:48]like when you were gaining weight after COVID
[11:50]and all this stuff.
[11:51]And you're like, I just don't even want to get out of bed.
[11:53]And then you like make the decision like I'm getting up again.
[11:56]And I'm going to do this.
[11:57]And I'm going to go to the last factory.
[11:59]And I'm going to like get out there and cry and all that.
[12:01]Like it's so powerful.
[12:04]Yeah.
[12:05]You decide to then decide to move forward.
[12:09]And also, I mean, I think I feel like I'm talking about it.
[12:13]But I don't know.
[12:14]Maybe you didn't catch on.
[12:15]Maybe you did.
[12:15]I don't know.
[12:16]But they don't give a manual on how to be famous.
[12:19]There's no manual on how to be a star.
[12:22]And I'm just sharing my experiences in them.
[12:26]What I think I made as mistakes.
[12:28]But also like I don't share any mistakes
[12:31]that I don't feel like I've got a resolution.
[12:36]Or that I've grown from.
[12:38]If I don't feel like I grew from it, I probably didn't share it.
[12:43]But like because I think a lot of people
[12:45]want to be stars.
[12:47]They want to be this thing or whatever.
[12:49]But they don't realize.
[12:50]I think they think I want some famous all my problems to go away.
[12:55]But they like amplify.
[12:59]They amplify.
[13:00]So you really need to be careful how you move and be ready.
[13:06]Be strong enough to carry them.
[13:08]You know what's something funny.
[13:09]My great uncle just passed away.
[13:11]Oh, no.
[13:12]My grandmother's brother.
[13:15]And it's funny because he, when I was a, when I got married,
[13:20]he said, I don't be careful now.
[13:21]I don't know if you want to get married because marriage is.
[13:24]And I think I should put that in the book
[13:26]because I kind of forgot about it.
[13:28]But when he passed me, remember, he said,
[13:30]when you get married, whatever they do now before you get married,
[13:34]they get some of your nerves.
[13:36]It's going to amplify times t.
[13:40]So make sure whatever it is that they do that gets on your nerves.
[13:43]Man, you can handle it once you say I do.
[13:47]Because for some reason, no, no, why?
[13:51]It just amplifies times t.
[13:54]But make sure you really love them and you can stand it.
[13:58]And I feel like that is the same thing
[14:00]would be an in the eye of the public.
[14:02]It's like you could like whatever it is that bothers you before.
[14:07]You say, it will bother you even more.
[14:10]So what's what has amplified the most in bothers you now
[14:13]even more than you thought could possibly bother you?
[14:16]Not sleeping in my bed.
[14:19]I used to get on my nerves people in my business.
[14:21]Now I'll give some of my nerves even more.
[14:28]Who's in your bed?
[14:29]Like who's your boyfriend?
[14:32]Who are you dating?
[14:32]Who are you dating?
[14:33]I used to get on my nerves.
[14:34]Your mom's famous.
[14:36]Yeah, I really get some of my nerves.
[14:38]And not only can that be my bedroom.
[14:45]I guess the flip side to that is when you get married,
[14:47]the things that you do are going to bother somebody else
[14:50]10 times more.
[14:52]Don't worry.
[14:54]Boy, I'm ready to bother.
[14:56]No, I'm not.
[15:00]So when you get to these points when you're like,
[15:03]I don't want to get out of my bed.
[15:05]I don't want to do this.
[15:06]This is like, I don't even see the way out of this.
[15:09]This is horrible.
[15:10]And you make the decision like, OK, forget it.
[15:12]I'm going to be funny.
[15:13]I'm going to choose joy.
[15:15]Why why and when does the switch go off?
[15:17]Like what if it doesn't go off?
[15:20]It goes off.
[15:21]It's a decision.
[15:23]As well as say, everything is a decision.
[15:25]You have to decide.
[15:27]You decide to be depressed.
[15:29]Like depression.
[15:31]I heard.
[15:31]I think Jim Kelly said depression is your body saying
[15:33]I thought this.
[15:34]I don't want to live this kind of character.
[15:36]This is not who we are.
[15:37]This is not the purpose.
[15:39]So you have to decide to move differently.
[15:43]Challenge about it.
[15:44]Something else.
[15:44]OK, this is a normal person.
[15:47]We don't like this.
[15:48]Like I don't like any of these lifestyle.
[15:50]OK, change it.
[15:52]Change it.
[15:53]And luckily we live in America where you can make adjustments
[15:59]whenever you want to and figure out what it is that makes you happy.
[16:03]I figured out what it is that makes me happy.
[16:05]Get no stage.
[16:07]That's what brings me joy.
[16:08]So I'm laying out that and I don't feel like it.
[16:11]But what do you like?
[16:13]What do you feel like?
[16:15]What go do it?
[16:17]It's not going to hurt nobody.
[16:19]It's not going to hurt you.
[16:20]Go do it.
[16:22]I love to help in the book.
[16:23]You were, I mean, it's sad.
[16:24]Funny sad.
[16:25]But during COVID, how you would do your stand-up in front
[16:28]of the mirror and you're like, nobody in the bathroom
[16:29]was laughing.
[16:30]Like the toothbrush wasn't laughing.
[16:33]Nobody was laughing.
[16:36]I needed to hear the last.
[16:38]And I was using my imagination so tough.
[16:40]Like going into doing it in the garden.
[16:44]How many jokes?
[16:47]They're just using my imagination.
[16:49]I'm sure I'm getting all my neighbors' nerves
[16:51]and doing it in the backyard.
[16:53]Finding any kind of way.
[16:54]Like calling people.
[16:56]It got to know.
[16:57]It didn't evolve to when I was doing colleges through Zoom's.
[17:04]But I couldn't hear the labs.
[17:06]And that's how I was living for the labs.
[17:08]They would just be like laughing in the comic.
[17:12]Yeah, ha, ha, ha.
[17:16]Sometimes I'm like, can you all just unmute?
[17:18]I feel like I'm like talking to a ball.
[17:20]I hate what everybody's on Zoom.
[17:22]And you're like saying something like, I can't read the room.
[17:24]Are you there?
[17:25]Is anyone there?
[17:26]I tell you cameras all.
[17:28]Let me look at your face.
[17:29]Exactly.
[17:30]Exactly.
[17:31]What are you doing?
[17:31]Are you having lunch?
[17:32]Are you even listening to me?
[17:34]Like what is going on here?
[17:35]Oh, my gosh.
[17:37]Why did you write a second book?
[17:38]You had a bestseller.
[17:40]Like you could have stopped there.
[17:41]Well, who?
[17:42]Amazing.
[17:43]Why?
[17:44]Because I dare to challenge myself.
[17:46]Oh, there was a bunch that was in that first book that I took out and put in this book.
[17:52]Because I felt like the first book was too long.
[17:55]I hate long books.
[17:56]It's so funny.
[17:57]I feel like we should be able to finish it in a day.
[18:00]And it was so much in the first book.
[18:03]And I was like, it's just too much to think.
[18:05]Like, yeah, I can't even carry so happy.
[18:08]So we took a lot out of the first and everything that took out.
[18:13]We put in this.
[18:14]Plus more.
[18:15]Plus picking up like all the stuff that's happened since that first book has come out.
[18:20]A lot of the things that happen.
[18:22]Not all of it.
[18:23]Because then every one day, the longest book that I think is long and it's books.
[18:30]So you can save it for your third book then?
[18:32]Exactly.
[18:33]I plan on living a long time.
[18:34]It'll be a series of, what did it call it?
[18:38]It's volumes.
[18:39]Was it?
[18:40]Yeah.
[18:41]Like a lot of volumes.
[18:42]Yeah.
[18:43]A whole series.
[18:44]I'll just, I'll clear a whole shelf.
[18:47]And I'll just make room for all the ones to come.
[18:50]Every five years, they'll be five to six years.
[18:56]We'll drop another book.
[18:57]How about that?
[18:58]When you're writing, do you, because your voice is, it's like I'm listening to you talk,
[19:03]right?
[19:04]When you write it's so voice.
[19:05]It's like the perfect example of like when people are like find your voice and writing
[19:09]on the page.
[19:10]And it's like, okay, voice.
[19:12]This is like read this.
[19:13]This is voice.
[19:14]Do you dictate ever?
[19:15]Do you just write and it comes out like this?
[19:17]How do you do it?
[19:18]Yeah, dictate a lot.
[19:19]Also, I write.
[19:20]Like if you read my journals, which you will be like this girl, because there's like a
[19:27]same way.
[19:28]I'm shocked to hear that.
[19:31]Really shocked.
[19:32]And there's lots of cussing in the book.
[19:34]It's really my voice.
[19:36]And I write how I feel and how I feel.
[19:40]I feel how I feel has a lot to do with like I could put myself in a place.
[19:47]I just think of it.
[19:48]Think of words.
[19:50]I can see.
[19:51]I can feel it.
[19:53]I can smell it.
[19:54]I can take like a teleport.
[19:56]It's like a time travel.
[19:58]When I'm riding, oh my gosh.
[20:00]Miss, they say time travel doesn't exist, but it does if we hear. Okay. Yeah. And I imagine I'm there. Even when I went to Israel, like, I think I time travel there because as I'm like walking with a to make those are the huge Olympics size, make those and I'm walking up this.
[20:19]Like, pathway that leads towards the temples and I'm like, oh, yeah, Jesus walked this path so many Jews walked this path. People came every year, hundreds and hundreds and I felt like I was surrounded by people like I can hear the people like I can smell the people and they was musty. They needed to get it out.
[20:40]That was necessary to me to squash watch it in my mind. I could see it all. And I could feel it in the feelings that I was getting the soul.
[20:53]That didn't even get to put that in the book because I did it. All right, the book was dead already. I'm like, oh, the next book is these journals. I got them. It's like off the chain in in this like, I thought I time travel and I can just imagine what it felt like to be going up and down. And it was so beautiful. I was like, this is like a mom.
[21:14]It feels like a mom. I get so huge. And then I'm thinking, is this where moths came from? Is this where we copied like, do we copy this is obviously something like nothing is no under this. We copied everything.
[21:32]And I'm just imagining like what outfits they might have been wearing. And then all the different.
[21:39]So many cities built on top of this city on top of that city and it's like, I feel like I could fill all these different generations of people that lived in this place.
[21:49]And it's so many different types. It's so so many different religions lost religions lost practices lost lost souls just in the energy was crazy.
[22:03]And I'm just like walking, trying not to be a cry baby. And when you're trying to figure out.
[22:09]And I really, really, and I really, really imagine.
[22:13]Is there a reason I played that part? Am I getting over the character?
[22:19]Am I a master that I was like, I'm just going here.
[22:25]And then as I'm talking to other people that's around and different people that's like that I'm being there like all your Jerusalem that has that effect is the energy.
[22:33]And it's transformative. It's just you can feel it's like something from that rock in the wall. You did you pray at the wall. It was like, oh, yeah, I pray.
[22:41]I cried at the wall. I realized I was the way on the wall. I was like, right.
[22:46]You know, it was up there like a dummy at night. So then I was like, Oh, my gosh.
[22:54]And it's just who I am. I think it's just like, I don't know.
[22:58]I do. I feel like has a reason.
[23:00]But there's a purpose. Even if I'm confused about what the purpose is.
[23:03]But I think the purpose might be.
[23:05]It's a bit completely different than what it actually is.
[23:09]In hindsight, you're like, Oh, that's why I went through that. Oh, that's why this happened.
[23:15]So I don't know. I'm just really, I want to share the experiences. I feel like that gives you all these experiences for a reason.
[23:24]And I think it's meant to be shared. I love that.
[23:27]And maybe help somebody else be better with theirs.
[23:31]It's beautiful. Really beautiful.
[23:33]Just one more question. You're so open about being Jewish.
[23:37]And I love that I'm Jewish.
[23:39]It's so important right now. Everything is just it's crazy times.
[23:43]I've always been important.
[23:44]It's always been important.
[23:45]It's always been crazy times.
[23:47]So I know, but I don't know.
[23:49]I mean, come on, 100 years ago, it was definitely times.
[23:54]I know.
[23:55]Even more so deadly than that.
[23:57]You're 100% right.
[23:58]And it depends on what country you're in as a Jew.
[24:01]It could be another deadly time.
[24:03]Yes.
[24:04]Are you ever afraid of speaking out because some people are?
[24:08]And you know why they are.
[24:09]It's probably because they haven't dealt with persecution and hate.
[24:13]They hold a time like they've been able to hide.
[24:16]I'm not afraid of speaking out.
[24:19]Cause I've been speaking down. It's like my voice has never heard anyways.
[24:23]But I guess some people do hear.
[24:27]I think in my actions, I guess speak even louder.
[24:32]In my words, actions, you know, they say actions speak louder than words.
[24:37]And you know, I suffer persecution from now.
[24:40]But I feel like my whole life, I've been persecuted.
[24:42]I feel like my mom didn't realize it.
[24:45]But she was preparing me for naysayers and there do wells.
[24:50]And strengthen in my heart, my skin to be able to handle that.
[24:55]You know, that's the first person I've ever loved.
[24:57]She was the meanest person I could imagine.
[25:00]She said the meanest, nastiest things about me.
[25:02]So when the world says mean nasty things,
[25:05]not don't even know them.
[25:07]They never even fed me or housed me or clothed me or had any love or given me any kind of love
[25:14]or I can give them love or me knowing of any love they've ever given me.
[25:18]I don't know these people.
[25:19]Doesn't really bother me so much.
[25:21]Now, if my media family members, people I love,
[25:26]people I care about, that bothers me.
[25:30]That bothers me.
[25:31]But at the same time, my mom would have to be so strong.
[25:34]It's like, oh, well, you a human.
[25:36]You go hurt my heart anyways.
[25:38]That's what it is.
[25:39]That's what humans do.
[25:41]But why do I have to change who I have to decide to hide who I am?
[25:47]And I can't.
[25:49]I'm black.
[25:50]And I'm not going to let nobody dictate how I love God, how I worship God.
[25:55]If you have a problem with how I love God,
[25:59]then you might want to check how you love God.
[26:02]Because every single religion that I've studied almost all of them,
[26:06]you're not supposed to be hating nobody.
[26:09]You're not supposed to be killing nobody.
[26:12]You're not supposed to be even supposed to be trying to convert people,
[26:17]you know, to you're supposed to share.
[26:21]Share with you.
[26:22]Share your love.
[26:23]Share what you've learned.
[26:25]But you ain't supposed to kill them to make them be like you.
[26:31]And you can hate what other people do, but you ain't supposed to be killing them.
[26:35]I don't know.
[26:37]But if you are attacked, you are supposed to, you know, you turn out the cheek first.
[26:43]If they keep messing with you, then you got stuck with them.
[26:48]The deleted Bible scenes.
[26:51]I don't know if it's deleted, but I do know.
[26:54]I mean, there's some, I mean, people have done some stupid steps in the Bible.
[26:58]I mean, King David, he was off the chain.
[27:02]You defeated the, the, yeah, it.
[27:05]And then there's a bunch of other stuff happening.
[27:08]Nothing down to prove that it is because it's like you got so much blood on your hands.
[27:13]You can't build the tip.
[27:15]God of Spring's going to have to do that.
[27:17]You can do it.
[27:18]Cause you got too much damn blood on hands.
[27:22]And then there's all sprays.
[27:23]They're doing it.
[27:24]It was beautiful.
[27:25]But then, you know, everybody's speaking it.
[27:27]You do it for stuff.
[27:29]Stupid stupid.
[27:32]Nobody's perfect.
[27:33]Nobody's perfect.
[27:34]Nobody's perfect.
[27:35]Nobody's perfect.
[27:36]Nobody's perfect.
[27:37]Nobody's perfect.
[27:38]Nothing's perfect.
[27:39]But you know, you just try to be left.
[27:40]Make try to, try to bring love.
[27:42]That's, that's not like a thing.
[27:44]So I'm not, I'm not going to be hiding how I love God.
[27:48]Good.
[27:49]I love that.
[27:50]Tiffany, I have so much respect for you.
[27:53]You are awesome.
[27:54]Like in so many ways.
[27:56]And the celebrity is just this tiny, tiny piece, but you are an amazing person.
[28:01]Honestly.
[28:02]I'm not just saying that.
[28:03]Like, you're really the kick ass person.
[28:05]I don't know.
[28:06]I was just saying congratulations on your book for being you, for being just so comfortable
[28:13]in your skin and helping other people.
[28:16]It's amazing.
[28:17]It's my me too.
[28:19]I'm only going to have a massage.
[28:20]You're me too.
[28:21]Right.
[28:22]Yeah.
[28:23]It's uncomfortable when that move will change.
[28:24]And it's like, can we grab it?
[28:25]I got to talk about it.
[28:26]Me too.
[28:27]You're still young.
[28:28]Oh, and that cycle stands.
[28:30]Oh, I'm going to be out here.
[28:34]Thank you for.
[28:35]I don't know what I'm talking about.
[28:36]You probably like this girl is weird.
[28:38]I don't know.
[28:39]You are not weird.
[28:40]You're awesome.
[28:41]And you brought me lots of joy this morning.
[28:43]And you will bring listeners lots of joy.
[28:45]So thank you for coming on.
[28:46]And I am rooting for you in every way.
[28:48]Thank you so much.
[28:49]I appreciate you.
[28:50]Okay.
[28:51]And you're New York.
[28:52]I'm in New York.
[28:53]Yes.
[28:54]Maybe I'll be out there in about five days.
[28:56]I hope I see you around.
[28:58]Oh, I would love to see you.
[29:00]I'm here.
[29:01]Yeah.
[29:02]Yeah.
[29:03]Let's do it.
[29:04]I'm around.
[29:05]I'm totally here.
[29:06]I'll talk to your team.
[29:08]I'm definitely going to be.
[29:10]I'm doing a show at the Apollo Theater on the 10th.
[29:13]Maybe you can come to that.
[29:15]But I plan on getting up early every day.
[29:18]And it walking for at least 30 to 45 minutes.
[29:22]So that the abs of a lead by this summer.
[29:26]That's amazing.
[29:27]Well, I'll come walk with you if you want.
[29:29]Yeah.
[29:30]Come walk with me.
[29:31]They say you get in 10,000 steps.
[29:33]You burn a pound.
[29:34]Yeah.
[29:35]I plan on eating a lot while I'm there.
[29:37]I walked to the kitchen mostly.
[29:39]Just back.
[29:40]That's my, those are my steps.
[29:42]All right.
[29:45]All right.
[29:46]All right.
[29:47]I'll see you soon.
[29:48]Bye.
[29:50]Thanks for listening.
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